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 Post subject: New Garden Visitors
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:28 am 
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Oy, what a landscaping dilemma! Regards, Len :(

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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:12 am 
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Look just like mine (including the company).

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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
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jbuck919 wrote:
Look just like mine (including the company).


What did you do for landscaping to hide these monsters! Regards, Len :)


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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:02 pm 
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lennygoran wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:
Look just like mine (including the company).


What did you do for landscaping to hide these monsters! Regards, Len :)


I put them on the side of the house that was already ugly. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
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jbuck919 wrote:
I put them on the side of the house that was already ugly. :mrgreen:


Darn it, I knew we should have left one area like that in our garden! Regards, Len :)


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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:25 am 
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Why not make artworks of them? Like the storage tank on the road into Boston. Sue can get out her paint brushes.

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Or these in Japan, though I don't suppose they're your style:

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And there are more here:

http://weburbanist.com/2011/04/03/lets-enjoy-gas-japans-artistic-gas-storage-tanks/

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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
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John F wrote:
Why not make artworks of them? Like the storage tank on the road into Boston. Sue can get out her paint brushes.


I love the idea! Now if only Suburban Propane will give permission! Regards, Len :)


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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:06 pm 
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You just need a tarp like this:

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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:21 am 
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living_stradivarius wrote:
You just need a tarp like this:


Thanks but that and painting seem to be no-nos!

"Propane Tank Colors - Can I Paint My Tank?

The answer to this question is yes. Can you paint it any color you want? No. NFPA 58 states that propane containers must be painted a heat reflective color. Most state regulatory agencies have their own rule addressing this particular issue but the national code declares that LP Gas containers must be painted a heat reflective color unless installed in an extremely cold environment.

What color can I paint my propane tank?

All too often propane customers take it upon themselves to paint their tank a color that complements the colors of their home or landscaping. This presents a safety problem as well as a serviceability problem if the tank color is dark or non-reflective. Dark colors absorb heat while lighter colors reflect it. Have you ever worn a dark colored shirt on a sunny day? A dark shirt on a sunny day will give you a lot more warmth than a white shirt will. The principle is the same with LP Gas tanks as the last thing any propane tank needs is to absorb heat. Perhaps a better example is walking barefoot on the concrete sidewalk and stepping onto the asphalt street on a hot sunny day. Concrete sidewalks are fairly light in color (heat reflective) while asphalt streets and roads ar dark in color (heat absorbent). The sidewalk is much more bearable to walk on while the asphalt road can be quite painful. Propane tanks need to reflect heat, not absorb it.

The entire reasoning behind propane tank color involves pressure and some simple laws of chemistry that apply to fluids and gases when they are heated. The law "as temperature increases, volume increases" applies and can be seen in this explanatory animation from NASA. Because propane exists as both a liquid and a gas within the tank, the absorption of heat due to a non-reflective color creates the possibility of a high pressure situation that may cause the safety relief valve to open. The bottom line is this:

Dark (Non Reflective) Propane Tank = Absorbed Heat = Propane Expansion = Relief Valve May Open"

http://www.propane101.com/propanetankcolor.htm

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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
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So paint your tanks in bright colors and leave lots of white space. That still leaves plenty of scope for artistic expression. :)

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 Post subject: Re: New Garden Visitors
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John F wrote:
So paint your tanks in bright colors and leave lots of white space. That still leaves plenty of scope for artistic expression. :)


Well you can be sure I'll ask Suburban about this--still it is after all their property! Regards, Len :)


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