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The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by dulcinea » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:10 am

I am glad that you liked my JOKES SO AWFUL THEY COULD DRIVE YOU TO MURDER thread; now tell us about the most idiotic stupidities that you recall.
At a flea market here in Tampa I saw a man selling volumes of a 1962 WORLD BOOK ENCYCLOPEDIA. That joker did not know that:
a 50 y/o encyclopedia is worthless because practically its entire content is now outdated;
you don't sell volumes of an encyclopedia separately. An encyclopedia is good only if it has all its volumes; the lack of even one single volume ruins an entire encyclopedia.
And speaking of the WBE, the 1964 article about the six kings of GB named George ended its introductory paragraph with this statement:
The first two Georges were more German than English, but George V and George VI rank among the most truly English of all British kings.
This example of manic Anglophilia provoked this response in me:
For what reason I, a Puerto Rican with no British ancestry, should be impressed by this fact that is in no way relevant to PR? Did the author of this entry asume that EVERYBODY in the USA and Canada is of English ancestry? In what way is the Englishness of GV and GVI relevant to, say, Korean-Americans and French-Canadians? What about the British who are NOT English? Most of all, what's with this slur to Germans? Isn't GB full of Germans such as Handel, who died as a British citizen, and Delius and Holst, who were born to German immigrants? Methinks that the reason for this shameless brazen insult to Germans was that the 1964 WBE was full of articles that had not been updated since 1945. For ex, the article PRUSSIA ended with the statement that, while Prussia was no more, there was no assurance that the Prussian state of mind was gone. BLIMEY! SACRE BLEU! HIMMEL! In the middle of WWIII, Prussian militarism was still THE major threat to world peace! !QUIEN LO HUBIERA ADIVINADO!
Years later, when I was already a young woman, I pointed out to the WBE people the impertinent absurdity of that arrant piece of sassenach chauvinism. If you read the GEORGES OF GREAT BRITAIN article of the present day WBE you will see that that bit of Germanophobic nonsense has been erased.
Who of you have contributed necessary corrections to famous publications?
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by John F » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:43 am

You want really stupid, check out the Darwin Awards - better than anything I've ever witnessed. Here's one:

In A Pig's Eye
1991 Darwin Award Nominee
Confirmed True by Darwin

(4 July 1991) Three Eaton men died on the evening of July 4th. James, Billy and Ashley were killed early Friday morning after their blue Ford pickup rolled over on country Road 24. Hogs and alcohol were contributing factors to the accident.

"We found several beer cans in and around the scene," said Sheriff Andrew Watson. The driver had a blood alcohol content twice the legal limit.

The three men had spent the national holiday drinking. Later that evening they were struck with sudden cravings for porkchops. "They were popping off fireworks when Jimmy said they ought to go get some eats," reported Billy's girlfriend Emma.

At 11:00PM they drove ten miles to a pig farm, intent on stealing a hog. One of the men scaled the fence and tied the end of a rope to a plump quadriped. The other two men started pulling on the 400-lb beast. The stress of a struggling hog was too much for the 6 foot chain link fence, and a fourteen foot section collapsed loudly, startling the other hogs into a stampede.

"I was asleep when I herd this godawful noise, " explained John Wilson, owner of the farm. "I run out of the house with my shotgun and shot off both barrels in the air, and yelled at them to get on out."

The friends loaded up their stolen pig in a flash, tied the rope to the truck, and sped down the county road in excess of 90 miles per hour. Unfortunately they forgot to buckle their seat belts, but the pig was strapped in.

Three miles down the road, the hog began making a commotion in the back of the pickup truck, causing the vehicle to swerve wildly. That threw the pig from the back of the truck, and it was dragged along the dirt road for about half a mile.

Distracted, the driver hit a soft shoulder, and the truck rolled 40 feet, ejecting all three men from the vehicle and killing them.

The victims were discovered at 5:00AM by a passing motorist. Police caution motorists to drive sensibly on dirt roads, wear seatbelts, and refrain from drinking while driving.

The pig lived.

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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by Mark Harwood » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:27 am

I'm happy to have missed WWIII, but do enjoy many refreshing moments of other people's stupidity.
Living on an island and working in a shop, it's entertaining to be asked where the newspapers are, before the ferry's first run.
You only have to drive a car around to see humanity at its most stupid. I once stopped behind another car at a red light; the driver behind me, having almost stopped, accelerated through the large 5-way junction. That entertained several people.
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by dulcinea » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:25 pm

Mark Harwood wrote:I'm happy to have missed WWIII.
WWIII was the anything-but-Cold War.
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Post by jbuck919 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:08 pm

Mention of war made me think of the military, which made me think of my father, who once when I was very young came home with the story that a detail had been assigned to go around the base putting yellow tape on all the edges of the filing cabinets so people would avoid bumping into them. I can only wonder how high up in the chain of command that order originated.
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by Agnes Selby » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:23 pm

While living in America, I was often complimented on my English.
Austria and Australia seemed to represent the same country.

I was also asked if kangaroos ran freely around in Sydney.

Also, how did we ever wash seeing that there was no water in Australia.

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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by dulcinea » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:55 pm

After the election of Crater, a columnist of EL NUEVO DIA tried to explain why that nonentity from nowhere was now the 39th POTUS.
Tried, but failed. That article was one of the worst I have ever read: confused, incoherent, self-contradictory; 'twas obvious that its author had nothing to say, and that he was just vomiting words and more words in the desperate hope that eventually some of them might actually express an intelligent idea. I particularly remember two bits of foolishness:
that the Crater administration would be the first Dem adm in eight years. The first Dem adm in EIGHT years ...; what was at all remarkable about that? Now, if it had been the first Dem adm in EIGHTY years, that would have been truly remarkable;
that part of Crater's appeal was that he reminded Americans of JFK. That really almost made me faint with shock! Kennedy, with his golden skin, his shiny hair, and features so well-proportioned that cartoonists had a hard time caricaturing him, was one of the five handsomest PPOTUS; Crater, with his frog face and a rat's nest on top, was already the strongest candidate ever for the title of ugliest POTUS!
Which takes us to the debate where Crater self-destructed in front of the entire world. When C told that anecdote about how his daughter told him that nuclear proliferation was the most pressing international issue, I was incredulous. Did C really say that he takes advice from his 13 y/o daughter, who hasn't even started HS? Then I laughed scornfully: Cancel the election! The election is no longer necessary! Mr Reagan is as good as elected! Sure enough, C got all sorts of razz for making a fool of himself in such an idiotic manner.
Now, it makes me both angry and sad that public figures get ridiculed when they don't display the wit and smart mouth of sitcom characters. REALLY!: real people, including public figures, don't talk like sitcom characters, always shooting one clever joke after the other. Real people, including public figures, stumble, find themselves at a loss for words, and often get similar-sounding names confused. In a PBS Friday news show that discussed the civil war that destroyed Yugoslavia, one of the journalists said the BALTICS instead of the BALKANS, and none of his fellow panelists noticed his mistake.
That being said, 'tis obvious that C's anecdote was no common slip of the tongue, but was instead an story intended to make an important political point; the mistake, therefore, was not with the story itself, which made a very valid point, but rather with the person that C chose as its protagonist.
WHY DID CRATER CHOOSE A 13 Y/O TEENYBOPPER, AND NOT SOMEONE WHO HAD EARNED NATIONAL RESPECT FOR HIS SAGE ADVICE?
Why not, for ex, the First Lady? Unlike C's terrible performance as POTUS, Rosalynn C had been a pretty good First Lady who had earned general respect, and casting her as his counselor in that story would have reminded the public of one of C's few achievements as POTUS: his solid support for feminist causes. Yes, he should have chosen his wife!
Instead, he chose his daughter, who was not even old enough to vote ...
Did C choose Amy Crater because the famous anecdote of her attending an official WH dinner with a book in hand made him think that she was a Mozart-type child prodigy who at 13 was already qualified to give wise political advice? If he really thought that, then Jimmy the Crater was indeed a DAMN BLOODY FOOL who should never have been the occupant of any political office, let alone the Presidency of the USA! :lol: :x :lol: :x :lol: :x :lol: :x :lol: :x
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by RebLem » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:53 am

Well, dulcy, I think you really missed the point. First of all, the most disastrous faux pas of the debates was Ford's assertion that Poland really was an independent country at the time and not under Soviet domination. He was given a chance to correct himself, and he doubled down on the assertion. Carter was so dumbfounded that he did not make the fullest and best use of this appalling display of ignorance on the part of the sitting president, but the point was made for the American people anyway. I believed, and continue to believe, that that was what lost Ford the election, not, as many suppose, the Nixon pardon. Up to that time, although I was always planning on voting for Carter, I thought he would lose because he didn't have a name for his program to tie into the American psyche with two simple words, like the Square Deal. the New Freedom, the New Deal, the Fair Deal, the New Frontier or the Great Society. I thought you needed that, especially if you were a Democrat (only the Square Deal was a Republican program, that of TR). Turned out I was wrong--if your opponent looks like a dangerously ignorant dolt, you can win without it.

Now, on to the issue at hand. You think Carter is dumb? Have YOU ever gone to your drawing board and designed a nuclear submarine? Carter has.

It is also pretty clear what Carter meant by referring to his daughter's citation of nuclear proliferation as the greatest danger for the future. Lots of people didn't agree with that at the time, but now, with India, Pakistan, and probably North Korea having a bomb, and Iran trying to get one, many people would now agree. I find Carter's statement quite prescient, expounded, as it was, at a time when many fewer people thought that. And it is pretty clear to me that what Carter meant by citing his daughter's statement was, "This is a softball question. This is a no-brainer. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for asking such an easy question."
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by jbuck919 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:14 pm

Ford's other claim to stupidity, though it was not on the level of the Poland thing, was proposing statehood for Puerto Rico. Now that alone should have made Dulcinea prefer Carter. :wink:

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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by dulcinea » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:30 pm

jbuck919 wrote:Ford's other claim to stupidity, though it was not on the level of the Poland thing, was proposing statehood for Puerto Rico. Now that alone should have made Dulcinea prefer Carter. :wink:
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Post by dulcinea » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:15 am

IN OUR NEW AGE OF TERRIFYING, LETHAL GADGETS, WHICH SUPPLANTED SO SWIFTLY THE OLD ONE, THE FIRST GREAT AGGRESSIVE WAR, IF IT SHOULD COME, WILL BE LAUNCHED BY SUICIDAL LITTLE MADMEN PRESSING AN ELECTRONIC BUTTON. SUCH A WAR WILL NOT LAST LONG AND NONE WILL EVER FOLLOW IT. THERE WILL BE NO CONQUEROR AND NO CONQUESTS, BUT ONLY THE CHARRED BONES OF THE DEAD ON AN UNINHABITED PLANET.
Wm Shirer, foreword to THE RISE AND FALL OF THE THIRD REICH
I drew a cartoon in which all the military leaders of the wars=campaigns of the Cold War Nothing!=WWIII have a good laugh at the expense of the traumatized Mr Shirer--who could never get WWII out from his system--and congratulate each other for having fought a war that lasted more than 40 years without ever resorting to nuclear weaponry.
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by John F » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:45 am

When Shirer wrote "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," published in 1960, a nuclear World War III was a real possibility, and many thought it likely. Novels like Neville Shute's "On the Beach" (1957) and Walter Miller's "A Canticle for Leibowitz" (1960) reflect the fatalism and fearfulness of the time. And indeed, the Cuban missile crisis only two years later brought the U.S. and the Soviet Union to the brink of war. Shirer's prediction was not stupid, then, only wrong - and thank goodness!

Shirer never revised any of his books, too busy writing more of them I guess, and there's a lot more than the foreword that might well have been rewritten and possibly rethought in the light of historical information he didn't have in the late '50s. He lived, barely, to see the end of the Soviet Union and the Communist domination of eastern Europe, but apart from his 3-volume autobiography, he didn't revisit World War II after 1962.
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by dulcinea » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:15 pm

John F wrote:When Shirer wrote "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," published in 1960, a nuclear World War III was a real possibility, and many thought it likely. Novels like Neville Shute's "On the Beach" (1957) and Walter Miller's "A Canticle for Leibowitz" (1960) reflect the fatalism and fearfulness of the time. And indeed, the Cuban missile crisis only two years later brought the U.S. and the Soviet Union to the brink of war. Shirer's prediction was not stupid, then, only wrong - and thank goodness!

Shirer never revised any of his books, too busy writing more of them I guess, and there's a lot more than the foreword that might well have been rewritten and possibly rethought in the light of historical information he didn't have in the late '50s. He lived, barely, to see the end of the Soviet Union and the Communist domination of eastern Europe, but apart from his 3-volume autobiography, he didn't revisit World War II after 1962.
Thank goodness that both sides had genuinely capable military men--including several relatives who were career military--who realised that WWIII could never be fought in the way that movies like DR STRANGELOVE and FAIL SAFE visualized.
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by jbuck919 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:28 pm

dulcinea wrote:
John F wrote:When Shirer wrote "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich," published in 1960, a nuclear World War III was a real possibility, and many thought it likely. Novels like Neville Shute's "On the Beach" (1957) and Walter Miller's "A Canticle for Leibowitz" (1960) reflect the fatalism and fearfulness of the time. And indeed, the Cuban missile crisis only two years later brought the U.S. and the Soviet Union to the brink of war. Shirer's prediction was not stupid, then, only wrong - and thank goodness!

Shirer never revised any of his books, too busy writing more of them I guess, and there's a lot more than the foreword that might well have been rewritten and possibly rethought in the light of historical information he didn't have in the late '50s. He lived, barely, to see the end of the Soviet Union and the Communist domination of eastern Europe, but apart from his 3-volume autobiography, he didn't revisit World War II after 1962.
Thank goodness that both sides had genuinely capable military men--including several relatives who were career military--who realised that WWIII could never be fought in the way that movies like DR STRANGELOVE and FAIL SAFE visualized.
If you mean we can be happy that no one was able to do what the lunatic officer in that movie does, you're correct. But "capable military men" like Curtis E. LeMay spent their careers preparing to fight such a war if not to start one. Any such war would have been started by civilian political leaders, so we can thank goodness none of them turned the wrong key.

As an aside, I remember my father telling me that LeMay notoriously hated bands and wanted to abolish them. Whenever he landed at a base, an honor detail with music would dutifully show up, but he would not deplane until they were dismissed. "Get them the hell off the field" was, I believe, the way he put it.

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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by John F » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:58 pm

It wasn't the "capable military men" but President Kennedy who figured out how to deal successfully with the Cuban missile crisis. The Joint Chiefs of Staff unanimously agreed that a full-scale attack and invasion of Cuba was the only solution. Instead, Kennedy opted for a selective naval blockade that would inspect ships bound for Cuba and stop only those carrying missiles etc. If he'd followed the military men's advice, we might well have started World War III in 1962.
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Post by dulcinea » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:20 pm

John F wrote:It wasn't the "capable military men" but President Kennedy who figured out how to deal successfully with the Cuban missile crisis. The Joint Chiefs of Staff unanimously agreed that a full-scale attack and invasion of Cuba was the only solution. Instead, Kennedy opted for a selective naval blockade that would inspect ships bound for Cuba and stop only those carrying missiles etc. If he'd followed the military men's advice, we might well have started World War III in 1962.
Again, the Hardly Tepid War WAS WWIII; my cousin who ended his career as a Lt Colonel figured out decades ago that the so-called wars of Korea, Viet Nam, Afghanistan and a very L---O---N---G etcetera were in fact all battles of a war that lasted much longer than the Thirty Years' War.
One of the most stupid men I ever met was a guy who, when the USSR exploded, expressed to me his satisfaction that the Soviets had been defeated without a WWIII ever being fought. I glared at him and replied testily: So you are saying that the world from the time of Truman to the time of GHW Bush was at peace? Was the ,,Cold'' War your idea of peace? The guy was totally baffled; he obviously was not as perceptive as my cousin the Lt Col.
The world has lived for so long in a Twilight Zone that is neither peace nor war that now nobody can tell the difference between either.
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by jbuck919 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:20 pm

John F wrote:It wasn't the "capable military men" but President Kennedy who figured out how to deal successfully with the Cuban missile crisis. The Joint Chiefs of Staff unanimously agreed that a full-scale attack and invasion of Cuba was the only solution. Instead, Kennedy opted for a selective naval blockade that would inspect ships bound for Cuba and stop only those carrying missiles etc. If he'd followed the military men's advice, we might well have started World War III in 1962.
For the only time in my life, I happened to be living on a military installation during the Cuban Missile crisis. It was Anderson Air Force Base on Guam (to refresh the memories of puzzled readers, my father was in the Air Force before he was in the Army, which is extremely unusual). All I can remember is that children were kept from leaving the base to attend the local (horrible) Catholic school which I attended.

What you say about Kennedy is true, but after a lifetime of going over this again and again, all I can conclude is that it is a miracle that Kennedy was on that occasion that bright and that right. We judge our presidents by such moments, but even the best are dependent on time and chance that they will be judged wise and right.

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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by John F » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:35 pm

One way or another, Kennedy got it right and the military men didn't. That's about as far as I feel the need to think, responding to what dulcinea said.
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Post by dulcinea » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:25 pm

John F wrote:One way or another, Kennedy got it right and the military men didn't. That's about as far as I feel the need to think, responding to what dulcinea said.
There were a couple of times when the Soviet leadership considered the possibility of a WWI-type scenario in which the Iron Curtain countries would play the role of no man's land between NATO Europe and the USSR. The military leadership of the satellites, unlike its spineless govts, took upon themselves the hard task of dissuading the Soviets from such a dangerous destructive notion.
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Post by jbuck919 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:45 pm

dulcinea wrote:
John F wrote:One way or another, Kennedy got it right and the military men didn't. That's about as far as I feel the need to think, responding to what dulcinea said.
There were a couple of times when the Soviet leadership considered the possibility of a WWI-type scenario in which the Iron Curtain countries would play the role of no man's land between NATO Europe and the USSR. The military leadership of the satellites, unlike its spineless govts, took upon themselves the hard task of dissuading the Soviets from such a dangerous destructive notion.
I did not know that. I imagine that the Soviets were convinced because the strategy would have been ineffectual rather than out of any concern for the destruction of the satellite countries.

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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by Dennis Spath » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:51 pm

When I was in the Air Force in the 1950's the prospect of a nuclear exchange was considered a definite possibility. In 1956-57 the 4th in my chain of command was Admiral Radford, who was then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President Eisenhower.

I was one of more than 900 Security Personnel on an AFSWAP Base where everyone had to have a Top Secret "Q" Clearance. The existence of our Base was still a well kept secret even though it had been there since 1951.....even the Cab Drivers had never heard of it.

I loved "The Canticle for Liebowitz" and have reread it several times.....if you haven't read it please do!
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by jbuck919 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:59 pm

Dennis Spath wrote:I loved "The Canticle for Liebowitz" and have reread it several times.....if you haven't read it please do!
Search CMG for "Leibowitz" (not "Liebowitz") and you will find a series of posts on the book board.

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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by dulcinea » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:55 am

On chapter X of THE LOST WORLD:
Our first care was to make some sort of list of our own stores, so that we might know what we had to rely upon ... In the matter of provisions we had enough to last for several weeks, with a sufficiency of TOBACCO and a few scientific implements ...
TOBACCO??? Tobacco as a vital part of provisions???!!!
I naturally improved that line, thusly:
... a sufficiency of tobacco, amphetamines, barbiturates, cocaine, crack, hashish, heroin, LSD, marijuana, mescaline, methadone, methamphetamines, morphine, opium, and an endless etcetera.
Why not? Wasn't Holmes a cokehead?
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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by jbuck919 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:40 am

dulcinea wrote:On chapter X of THE LOST WORLD:
Our first care was to make some sort of list of our own stores, so that we might know what we had to rely upon ... In the matter of provisions we had enough to last for several weeks, with a sufficiency of TOBACCO and a few scientific implements ...
The provisioning of the real-life Lewis and Clark Expedition sounds much the same, and in their journal they recorded with some agony the point where they ran out of tobacco.

The negative health effects of tobacco only began to become apparent in the 20th century, and then not all at once. In the centuries of its use, it was a huge comfort and solace to people and, in their own minds at least and possibly in reality, got them through miseries great and small, the ghastly work life of pre-labor-organization industrialization to name one thing. It is difficult to exaggerate the extent to which tobacco was almost in the category of food, clothing and shelter for so long, and a remarkable achievement that we have retreated from the social addiction to the extent that we have.

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Re: The Most Stupid Stupidities You Have Witnessed

Post by dulcinea » Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:05 am

jbuck919 wrote:
dulcinea wrote:On chapter X of THE LOST WORLD:
Our first care was to make some sort of list of our own stores, so that we might know what we had to rely upon ... In the matter of provisions we had enough to last for several weeks, with a sufficiency of TOBACCO and a few scientific implements ...
The provisioning of the real-life Lewis and Clark Expedition sounds much the same, and in their journal they recorded with some agony the point where they ran out of tobacco.

The negative health effects of tobacco only began to become apparent in the 20th century, and then not all at once. In the centuries of its use, it was a huge comfort and solace to people and, in their own minds at least and possibly in reality, got them through miseries great and small, the ghastly work life of pre-labor-organization industrialization to name one thing. It is difficult to exaggerate the extent to which tobacco was almost in the category of food, clothing and shelter for so long, and a remarkable achievement that we have retreated from the social addiction to the extent that we have.
I really should only buy books with notations; even books from the decade when I was born, such as THE CATCHER IN THE RYE and ON THE ROAD, are now as hard to understand as if they came from the time of LE MORTE D'ARTHUR.
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Post by Guitarist » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:08 pm

Just read some comments on news articles on CNN's site: it's enough to make one lose faith in humanity.

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Post by dulcinea » Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:30 pm

When San Juan Archbishop Luis Aponte Marti'nez was appointed Cardinal in 1973, a lot of commentators speculated on the possibility of him getting elected Pope. A smartass who obviously flunked catechism wrote to THE SAN JUAN STAR--the newspaper I delivered--that A QUICK LOOK--his words--into the history of the Papacy showed that, in order to become Pope, you first had to be a country boy from the countryside of Italy. That burro obviously thought that all Popes have the same biography as John XXIII; in fact the great majority of Popes have come from the aristocracy, the upper middle class, and the middle class; JPII was the son of a career military man, and BXVI is the son of a policeman, both of them positions very highly regarded in Central Europe.
And speaking of the countryside, the author of THE COUNTRY MOUSE AND THE CITY MOUSE fable obviously didn't know rice or beans about the country. The country is the most dangerous place in the world for a mouse!: the list of predators hungry for rodent meat--owls, falcons, hawks, snakes, foxes, wolves, weasels--is almost endless. In the city, on the other hand, the mouse is free of most of those predators; he has a great abundance of food to eat, and a great many places in which to hide from his only predators in the city, the cat and the dog. It may be true that, on the whole, life in the country is more peaceful than in the city, but the author of that fable BLUNDERED BADLY in choosing mice to make his point.
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Post by lennygoran » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:47 am

dulcinea wrote: The country is the most dangerous place in the world for a mouse!: the list of predators hungry for rodent meat--owls, falcons, hawks, snakes, foxes, wolves, weasels--is almost endless.
I have no sympathy for them going around causing us gardeners to get lyme disease!

"The ticks most commonly infected with B. burgdorferi usually feed and mate on deer during part of their life cycle. The recent growth of the deer population in the northeast and the building of suburban developments in rural areas where deer ticks are commonly found have probably contributed to the increasing number of people with the disease."

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Post by dulcinea » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:25 pm

"Forward, the Light Brigade!"
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Someone had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
How many soldiers, seamen or airmen would be willing today to blindly follow an order that is self-evidently foolish? A French general who witnessed the event commented that it was a beautiful gesture, but that war was nothing like that--in other words, it was all a tragic waste.
Feel like indulging in a bit of sardonicism? Watch the Errol Flynn vehicle of 1936 THE CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE, an olio of mendacities that totally ignores the facts of the battle and instead presents a monument to malignant jingoist propaganda truly worthy of Eisenstein.
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Post by dulcinea » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:40 pm

Daniel Barenboim inaugurated the 2012 London Olympics with a performance of the ODE TO JOY by an orchestra of Jews and Arabs.
Van Cliburn did not bring WWIII to an end by winning the Chaykovsky Competition; what makes Barenboim or anybody else believe that similarly feckless and worthless symbolic gestures will bring an end to the anti-West Islamic nightmare that is clearly developing into WWIV?
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Post by dulcinea » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:30 pm

dulcinea wrote:Daniel Barenboim inaugurated the 2012 London Olympics with a performance of the ODE TO JOY by an orchestra of Jews and Arabs.
Van Cliburn did not bring WWIII to an end by winning the Chaykovsky Competition; what makes Barenboim or anybody else believe that similarly feckless and worthless symbolic gestures will bring an end to the anti-West Islamic nightmare that is clearly developing into WWIV?
Did the 1936 Berlin Olympics prevent WWII?
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Post by dulcinea » Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:40 pm

Remember when the producers of THE GODFATHER, out of concern for the good name and reputation of the Mob, omitted any mention of the Mafia during the entire movie?
What next: remakes of KHARTOUM and THE FOUR FEATHERS that do not mention Islam at all?
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Post by dulcinea » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:05 pm

THE BUTTER BATTLE BOOK of Dr Seuss.
If Theodor Seuss Geisel was so myopic that he could not tell the difference between the Free World and the communist slavery he should have moved to the Albania of Enver Hoxha. Someone so obviously myopic would have welcomed that hellhole as Seventh Heaven.
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Post by John F » Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:24 pm

Never heard of it, but Wikipedia says this:
Wikipedia wrote:The Butter Battle Book is a rhyming story written by Dr. Seuss. It was published by Random House Books for Young Readers on January 12, 1984. It is an anti-war story; specifically, a parable about arms races in general, mutually assured destruction and nuclear weapons in particular. The Butter Battle Book was a New York Times Notable Book of the Year.

This book was written during the Cold War era, and reflects the concerns of the time, especially the perceived possibility that all life on earth could be destroyed in a nuclear war. It can also be seen as a satirical work, with its depiction of a deadly war based on a senseless conflict over something as trivial as a breakfast food. The concept of a war based on toast is similar to the war between Lilliput and Blefuscu in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels, which was nominally based on the correct end to crack an egg once soft boiled.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butter_Battle_Book

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Post by dulcinea » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:25 pm

Remember my thread about
I CRIED BECAUSE I HAD NO SHOES
THEN I SAW A MAN WHO HAD NO FEET?
Nobody here could figure out a way of expressing that inherently selfish sentiment without it coming across as sadistic gloating over the misfortunes of others.
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Post by dulcinea » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:55 pm

In a variety show of WKAQ in the late 70s, there was a sketch about some pompous jackasses who looked down at the lower classes' preferences in entertainment. An actress portraying salsa singer Celia Cruz presented the principal jackass with one of her records, whereupon the snob sneered that he didn't need salsa because he was perfectly happy with









SURPRISE!!!:
Beethoven.
Needless to say, I was not impressed with that meaningless namedropping beause by that time I was very much aware that practically everybody in Puerto Rican TV only knew two Kunstmusik composers: LvB and Schubert, and only two symphonies: Beethoven's Opus 67 and Deutsch 759.
What would have impressed me would have been the mention of Telemann and Vivaldi, because that would have shown that the scriptwriter was aware of the amazing and wonderful rediscovery of the Baroque style and its masters, which by the late 70s were already enjoying a popularity that just increases every day, every year, and every decade.
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Post by dulcinea » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:05 am

At this moment the History Channel is wasting its audience's time with a program about
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA?
Columbus, who else?
The discovery of America was not a question of who got there first, but a question of WHO REVEALED TO THE OLD WORLD THAT THERE WAS A NEW WORLD. As Samuel Langhorne Clemens put it:
Once Columbus discovered America, IT STAYED DISCOVERED.
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Post by John F » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:00 am

dulcinea wrote:At this moment the History Channel is wasting its audience's time with a program about
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA?
Columbus, who else?
I'll tell you who else - the Asiatic peoples who came here over the land bridge from central Asia. Once they discovered and populated America, it stayed discovered and it stayed populated, regardless of the conventional Eurocentric and racist view of history. Leif Ericson, Christopher Columbus (who never made it to North or South America), Amerigo Vespucci, whoever else, may have made the Americas known to Europe, but it had already been discovered more than 16,000 years earlier. By the 15th century the native Americans numbered in the millions, and some of them met Columbus on the beach.
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Post by dulcinea » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:20 am

John F wrote:
dulcinea wrote:At this moment the History Channel is wasting its audience's time with a program about
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA?
Columbus, who else?
I'll tell you who else - the Asiatic peoples who came here over the land bridge from central Asia. Once they discovered and populated America, it stayed discovered and it stayed populated, regardless of the conventional Eurocentric and racist view of history. Leif Ericson, Christopher Columbus (who never made it to North or South America), Amerigo Vespucci, whoever else, may have made the Americas known to Europe, but it had already been discovered more than 16,000 years earlier. By the 15th century the native Americans numbered in the millions, and some of them met Columbus on the beach.
By 1492 China and the other Asiatic powers had forgotten about the land bridge to America, which by that time was no longer in existence, so what CC did was to REDISCOVER a land and race that had been forgotten by the peoples of Eu, Afr and Asia.
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Post by lennygoran » Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:40 am

dulcinea wrote:
John F wrote:
dulcinea wrote:At this moment the History Channel is wasting its audience's time with a program about
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA?
Columbus, who else?
I'll tell you who else - the Asiatic peoples who came here over the land bridge from central Asia. Once they discovered and populated America, it stayed discovered and it stayed populated, regardless of the conventional Eurocentric and racist view of history. Leif Ericson, Christopher Columbus (who never made it to North or South America), Amerigo Vespucci, whoever else, may have made the Americas known to Europe, but it had already been discovered more than 16,000 years earlier. By the 15th century the native Americans numbered in the millions, and some of them met Columbus on the beach.
By 1492 China and the other Asiatic powers had forgotten about the land bridge to America, which by that time was no longer in existence, so what CC did was to REDISCOVER a land and race that had been forgotten by the peoples of Eu, Afr and Asia.
And then his followers gave the indians diseases and grabbed
Their land-now we're letting them open up casinos!
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Post by dulcinea » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:15 am

lennygoran wrote:
dulcinea wrote:
John F wrote:
dulcinea wrote:At this moment the History Channel is wasting its audience's time with a program about
WHO REALLY DISCOVERED AMERICA?
Columbus, who else?
I'll tell you who else - the Asiatic peoples who came here over the land bridge from central Asia. Once they discovered and populated America, it stayed discovered and it stayed populated, regardless of the conventional Eurocentric and racist view of history. Leif Ericson, Christopher Columbus (who never made it to North or South America), Amerigo Vespucci, whoever else, may have made the Americas known to Europe, but it had already been discovered more than 16,000 years earlier. By the 15th century the native Americans numbered in the millions, and some of them met Columbus on the beach.
By 1492 China and the other Asiatic powers had forgotten about the land bridge to America, which by that time was no longer in existence, so what CC did was to REDISCOVER a land and race that had been forgotten by the peoples of Eu, Afr and Asia.
And then his followers gave the indians diseases and grabbed
Their land-now we're letting them open up casinos!
Len
You are practicing projection, the psychological trick of seeing in others the faults that are actually yours. Did the USA have in the 19th century equivalents of Benito Juarez of Mexico, Rafael Carrera of Guatemala, or Ramon Castilla of Peru? Don't argue with me about the history of LatAmer, which most gringos and sassenachs learn from dopey cartoons like EL DORADO and THE EMPEROR'S NEW GROOVE.
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Post by lennygoran » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:22 am

Wow a lot of stuff I never heard of-will google when I get home
And back to a decent pc! Len :)

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Post by John F » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:10 pm

dulcinea wrote:By 1492 China and the other Asiatic powers had forgotten about the land bridge to America, which by that time was no longer in existence, so what CC did was to REDISCOVER a land and race that had been forgotten by the peoples of Eu, Afr and Asia.
I'll buy it that Christopher Columbus was one of those who rediscovered America, along with Leif Ericson and possibly others, after its original discovery and colonization by the Asians. But if every rediscovery is given equal weight with the first known discovery, that trivializes the achievement of the first discoverer. So I prefer to give credit where I think it's due.
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Post by dulcinea » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:30 pm

John F wrote:
dulcinea wrote:By 1492 China and the other Asiatic powers had forgotten about the land bridge to America, which by that time was no longer in existence, so what CC did was to REDISCOVER a land and race that had been forgotten by the peoples of Eu, Afr and Asia.
I'll buy it that Christopher Columbus was one of those who rediscovered America, along with Leif Ericson and possibly others, after its original discovery and colonization by the Asians. But if every rediscovery is given equal weight with the first known discovery, that trivializes the achievement of the first discoverer. So I prefer to give credit where I think it's due.
Leif Ericson accomplished nothing; 'tis because of CC that your ancestors and mine moved to America. Are you an immigrant? If not, then you are as much a Native American as the American Indians.
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Post by lennygoran » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:46 pm

dulcinea wrote:
John F wrote:
dulcinea wrote:By 1492 China and the other Asiatic powers had forgotten about the land bridge to America, which by that time was no longer in existence, so what CC did was to REDISCOVER a land and race that had been forgotten by the peoples of Eu, Afr and Asia.
I'll buy it that Christopher Columbus was one of those who rediscovered America, along with Leif Ericson and possibly others, after its original discovery and colonization by the Asians. But if every rediscovery is given equal weight with the first known discovery, that trivializes the achievement of the first discoverer. So I prefer to give credit where I think it's due.
Leif Ericson accomplished nothing; 'tis because of CC that your ancestors and mine moved to America. Are you an immigrant? If not, then you are as much a Native American as the American Indians.
Wiki says leif settled greenland and maybe cc heard about this
When he travelled to iceland-maybe leif deserves more credt?
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Post by dulcinea » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:40 pm

lennygoran wrote:
dulcinea wrote:
John F wrote:
dulcinea wrote:By 1492 China and the other Asiatic powers had forgotten about the land bridge to America, which by that time was no longer in existence, so what CC did was to REDISCOVER a land and race that had been forgotten by the peoples of Eu, Afr and Asia.
I'll buy it that Christopher Columbus was one of those who rediscovered America, along with Leif Ericson and possibly others, after its original discovery and colonization by the Asians. But if every rediscovery is given equal weight with the first known discovery, that trivializes the achievement of the first discoverer. So I prefer to give credit where I think it's due.
Leif Ericson accomplished nothing; 'tis because of CC that your ancestors and mine moved to America. Are you an immigrant? If not, then you are as much a Native American as the American Indians.
Wiki says leif settled greenland and maybe cc heard about this
When he travelled to iceland-maybe leif deserves more credt?
Len
Curious thing that it took so long for other Europeans to figure out that maybe there were other lands in the vicinity of Grland worth their attention. CC showed great foresight in deciding to build up on what Ericson had started.
Some decades ago a diplomat from Iceland reminded the UNO of Leif Ericson's stop at what is now the north part of America. The diplomats at first were impressed, but were then very disappointed when that diplomat--obviously someone who would love Earth to be as untouched by man's hand as the planet of the blue people in AVATAR--said proudly that LE left Am totally undisturbed, and did not tell anybody else of his soon forgotten ,,discovery''.
GIGANTIC HUMONGOUS STUPIDITY: that diplomat was all vainglorious at the fact that his homeland, Iceland, was not one of the nations that explored America and brought to it their civilisation and their language.
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Post by dulcinea » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:35 pm

And, speaking of LatAmer, 'tis not only the gr and the sass who hold the territory and its history in contempt.
Bernardo Bertolucci, fresh from directing LAST TANGO IN PARIS, went to Peru for his next project: an epic about Tupac Amaru and his revolt against Spain. At first the Peruvians were very enthusiastic; even Pres Gen Juan Velasco Alvarado, expresed support for the project.
That enthusiasm took a hard hit when BB--obviously motivated by the actor's support for Ame Indian causes--announced his choice to play Amaru:









MARLON BRANDO
Needless to say, the Peruvians were totally shocked and dismayed at such an absurd example of miscasting. So imagine how they reacted when Bertolucci announced his choice to play the Inca princess who would be Tupac's love interest--again, a choice dictated by the leftist politics of the performer:









JANE FONDA
As you can imagine, the Peruvians were furious and outraged at that grotesque miscasting that would have turned the epic story of Amaru into a ludicrous burlesque, and they told BB to pack up his bags and leave, because he was no longer welcome in Peru.
This appalling fiasco makes me wonder who Bertolucci had in mind originally for the role of Pu Yi in THE LAST EMPEROR:









Paul Newman? Ryan O'Neal? Al Pacino? Robert Redford? John Travolta?
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Post by lennygoran » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:56 pm

I saw that movie many years ago-have you or jane fonda ever
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Post by dulcinea » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:05 am

The past week I found a blog whose author had compiled a list of the worst Kunstmusik composers, a list that included such as Debussy, Liszt, Mozart, Offenbach, Schubert and Schumann. As I read his reasoning for such amazing conclusions, it dawned on me that the roast beef of this character was that the works of each of those authors were too similar to the other works of those authors--in other words, this horse's ass was so tone deaf that he could not tell the difference between, say, EINE KLEINE NACHTMUSIK and the Requiem, K626!!!
I bet that, if this boor were given a present of, say, the best ballerina paintings of Degas, he would reject them because, to his jaded and unappreciative eyes, all those paintings would look the same.
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Post by jbuck919 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:15 am

dulcinea wrote:I bet that, if this boor were given a present of, say, the best ballerina paintings of Degas, he would reject them because, to his jaded and unappreciative eyes, all those paintings would look the same.
I bet you're right (no irony or sarcasm in this answer).

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