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UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by rwetmore » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:05 pm

U.N. planning court to judge U.S. for 'climate justice'

http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/u-n-tribunal ... mate-debt/

So who still thinks I'm crazy? History is repeating itself right out in the wide open. I'm mean it's right there so obvious to see, but so many just don't want to let it in their minds. 'climate change' (something that happens anyway no matter what don't forget) is now the new religion created and being used by the central planners of the world to control and manipulate the world masses -- just as traditional religion was used all throughout history as a power base for the central planners to manipulate and control the masses. We're living in the age that will be known as that of the climate crusades, unless somehow sanity prevails and enough people wake up and vote against this insanity (and it is nothing short of mass insanity on a global scale).
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by John F » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:25 pm

rwetmore wrote:'climate change' (something that happens anyway no matter what don't forget) is now the new religion created and being used by the central planners of the world to control and manipulate the world masses -- just as traditional religion was used all throughout history as a power base for the central planners to manipulate and control the masses. We're living in the age that will be known as that of the climate crusades, unless somehow sanity prevails and enough people wake up and vote against this insanity (and it is nothing short of mass insanity on a global scale).
That's crazy talk. Yours, I mean, not the U.N.'s. As for the so-called “International Tribunal of Climate Justice,” I'm not taking the word of paranoid right-wing commentators - I want to see some real journalistic coverage. And here it is, courtesy of Reuters:
Alister Doyle wrote:That fear [of the consequences of climate change] finds its sharpest expression in a proposal from Bolivia’s socialist government for an International Climate Justice Tribunal with powers to penalize countries that break commitments. Diego Pacheco, Bolivia’s chief negotiator, said anything less would be "dangerous to Mother Earth". But the idea is a non-starter with almost every other country going to the Paris talks, from Nov. 30-Dec. 11. Even the European Union, which has long argued for a strong, legally binding deal, is increasingly talking about a “pledge and review” system under which national commitments would be re-assessed every five years against a goal of halving world emissions by 2050...
Bolivia can propose all it wants to, but it's like the House Republicans' repeated proposals to rescind the Affordable Care Act: ideologically motivated hot air with no chance of actually being enacted. Forget it.
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by rwetmore » Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:30 pm

John F wrote:That's crazy talk. Yours, I mean, not the U.N.'s. As for the so-called “International Tribunal of Climate Justice,” I'm not taking the word of paranoid right-wing commentators - I want to see some real journalistic coverage. And here it is, courtesy of Reuters:
Alister Doyle wrote:That fear [of the consequences of climate change] finds its sharpest expression in a proposal from Bolivia’s socialist government for an International Climate Justice Tribunal with powers to penalize countries that break commitments. Diego Pacheco, Bolivia’s chief negotiator, said anything less would be "dangerous to Mother Earth". But the idea is a non-starter with almost every other country going to the Paris talks, from Nov. 30-Dec. 11. Even the European Union, which has long argued for a strong, legally binding deal, is increasingly talking about a “pledge and review” system under which national commitments would be re-assessed every five years against a goal of halving world emissions by 2050...
Bolivia can proposa all it wants to, but it's like the House Republicans' repeated proposals to rescind the Affordable Care Act: ideologically motivated hot air with no chance of actually being enacted. Forget it.
You miss the point and that is it's what at least some want to enact at the UN in the name of saving the world from 'climate change'. If countries don't comply, they want to be able to tri and penalize them for crimes against the planet, i.e. crimes against 'Mother Earth', in an international court run by the UN. Any such deal made with the US would or should require a 2/3rds majority vote in Congress since any such agreement would really be a treaty, but why would that stop someone like Obama who doesn't care about any of that and will try to get around it somehow via an executive agreement or something?

And it's not crazy talk, because if the electorate of nation votes against any such prior agreed to measures because they decide they don't want them anymore, i.e. votes someone into power who ends them, they can still be tried and penalized for it. It's just another (among many) disguised way of further shifting power away from the electorate and putting it into the hands of unelected officials or bureaucrats at the UN in the name of saving the planet from 'climate change'. It should be profoundly disturbing to everyone, as a lot of this stuff should be, but most seem totally oblivious.

After all, how could something like this happen, i.e. history repeat itself in this way, unless most people didn't know it was happening as it was happening? And those facilitating it with their vote didn't even realize they were doing it? In fact, if you think about it, there is no other way it could even happen unless most people didn't realize it was happening as it was happening -- to stop it. The same programmed elements of human nature never go away and get acted out over and over. Those doing it are not even consciously aware they are doing it, nor are those succumbing to it consciously aware they are succumbing to it. I've come to conclude it's why history repeats over and over again, i.e. those repeating it aren't even consciously aware they are doing it.

Or maybe I'm crazy (but I don't think so this time)....
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by Chalkperson » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:54 pm

rwetmore wrote:Or maybe I'm crazy (but I don't think so this time)....
That you are crazy is not in dispute... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by rwetmore » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:26 am

Chalkperson wrote:
rwetmore wrote:Or maybe I'm crazy (but I don't think so this time)....
That you are crazy is not in dispute... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Are you sure?

Obama circumventing Senate in Paris climate deal talks

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-enviro ... deal-talks

OBAMA TO DEFY COURT ON AMNESTY

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/ ... mvent-dapa

These actions are -- or least should be -- outright impeachable offenses. What the hell is the point of even having congressional elections? Or even having a congress? If the President is just going to give the middle finger to congress when he can't do something he wants or get something through the legislative process that he wants, then do we even have a democracy anymore? No, we don't, yet none of you notice or even care.

This is how it actually happens, folks. People aren't paying attention, and are letting their ideology cloud or block their mind's ability to see what is right out in the wide open.
"Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history."
- Aldous Huxley

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened."
-Winston Churchill

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!”
–Charles Mackay

"It doesn't matter how smart you are - if you don't stop and think."
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by rwetmore » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:23 pm

This from the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/scien ... .html?_r=0

So now some prosecutors have begun investigating climate 'crimes'. And all of you still think I'm crazy?
"Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history."
- Aldous Huxley

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened."
-Winston Churchill

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!”
–Charles Mackay

"It doesn't matter how smart you are - if you don't stop and think."
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by rwetmore » Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:54 pm

Prosecuting Climate Dissent

http://www.wsj.com/article_email/prosec ... OTIwNDkzWj

Here is another good piece on this subject. This should be profoundly disturbing, yet few even care or even notice. This is how history repeats...too few realize it's happening as it's happening. I'm one of the few who clearly sees it's happening, but I can't stop it. In the past, there must have been others who saw what was happening, but they too just couldn't stop, because they were outnumbered by orders of magnitude. Thus, why history repeats over and over again. Yes folks, the world has gone mad on this issue. It's nothing short of mass madness.
"Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history."
- Aldous Huxley

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened."
-Winston Churchill

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!”
–Charles Mackay

"It doesn't matter how smart you are - if you don't stop and think."
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by John F » Mon Nov 09, 2015 2:16 pm

rwetmore wrote:This from the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/scien ... .html?_r=0

So now some prosecutors have begun investigating climate 'crimes'. And all of you still think I'm crazy?
You don't understand what that's really about. It is a crime for a company to deliberately mislead investors about its financial risks, whether its lies are about climate change or other issues that may affect the company's profitability and stock price. According to the Times, Exxon Mobil may have lied to investors about its own scientists' assessment of the risks and consequences of climate change. If Exxon Mobil can show that it did no such thing, there'll be no basis for legal action against them. But if they've been doing this, they deserve whatever they may get.
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by rwetmore » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:06 pm

John F wrote:
rwetmore wrote:This from the NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/06/scien ... .html?_r=0

So now some prosecutors have begun investigating climate 'crimes'. And all of you still think I'm crazy?
You don't understand what that's really about. It is a crime for a company to deliberately mislead investors about its financial risks, whether its lies are about climate change or other issues that may affect the company's profitability and stock price. According to the Times, Exxon Mobil may have lied to investors about its own scientists' assessment of the risks and consequences of climate change. If Exxon Mobil can show that it did no such thing, there'll be no basis for legal action against them. But if they've been doing this, they deserve whatever they may get.
Yes, but I don't think you understand what this is really about. Is it pure coincidence that the prosecutors and those pushing them are CAGW believers? Do you really think that potentially lying to shareholders is what's motivating the investigations by the prosecutors in this case? If yes, please explain.

Did you even read the WSJ article? What does senator Sheldon Whitehouse know? As best I can tell he's just another 'know-nothing' advocate of CAGW. So why is he the one lobbying for prosecutions of Exxon Mobile and not their own shareholders?
"Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history."
- Aldous Huxley

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened."
-Winston Churchill

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!”
–Charles Mackay

"It doesn't matter how smart you are - if you don't stop and think."
-Thomas Sowell

"It's one of the functions of the mainstream news media to fact-check political speech and where there are lies, to reveal them to the voters."
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by rwetmore » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:23 am

Here is another salient piece on this, which really nails it:

The Climate Change Inquisition Begins

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/09/the ... on-begins/

Again, all of this should be profoundly disturbing, but no one...save for only a few...are even phased by it.
"Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history."
- Aldous Huxley

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened."
-Winston Churchill

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!”
–Charles Mackay

"It doesn't matter how smart you are - if you don't stop and think."
-Thomas Sowell

"It's one of the functions of the mainstream news media to fact-check political speech and where there are lies, to reveal them to the voters."
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Re: UN planning court for 'climate justice'...

Post by rwetmore » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:42 pm

This is disturbing:

27% of Democrats favor prosecuting 'global warming' foes:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... rming_foes
"Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted. That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history."
- Aldous Huxley

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing has happened."
-Winston Churchill

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one!”
–Charles Mackay

"It doesn't matter how smart you are - if you don't stop and think."
-Thomas Sowell

"It's one of the functions of the mainstream news media to fact-check political speech and where there are lies, to reveal them to the voters."
-John F. (of CMG)

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