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Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by lennygoran » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:13 am

DID YOU KNOW John Tyler, the 10th President of the United States, has a grandson that’s alive today:

John Tyler had a son, Lyon, when he was 63. Lyon had a son,Harrison Tyler, at 75.

This according to an email I got from my cousin with material of this ilk which I was almost too lazy to verify. Regards, Len :lol:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... alive.html

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Re: Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by John F » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:46 am

That may be the only notable thing about Tyler. He wasn't elected president - he was William Henry (Tippecanoe) Harrison's vice president - and seems to have been one of the worst. After leaving office, he sided with the Confederates - he was a Virginian and a slaveowner - and was elected to the Confederate House of Representatives. What a turncoat he was.
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Re: Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by lennygoran » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:09 am

John F wrote:That may be the only notable thing about Tyler. He wasn't elected president - he was William Henry (Tippecanoe) Harrison's vice president - and seems to have been one of the worst. After leaving office, he sided with the Confederates - he was a Virginian and a slaveowner - and was elected to the Confederate House of Representatives. What a turncoat he was.
Very interesting-there have been good shows on the Presidents and I'm sure I saw material on him but these days I forget things so quickly-it's quite alarming. Regards, Len :(

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Re: Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by John F » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:02 pm

Oh, I didn't remember all that stuff. In the back of my mind I had the idea that Tyler was a bad 'un and looked him up in (where else?) Wikipedia.
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Post by jbuck919 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 2:39 pm

John F wrote:Oh, I didn't remember all that stuff. In the back of my mind I had the idea that Tyler was a bad 'un and looked him up in (where else?) Wikipedia.
Well, I did remember it, so there! :P ;) Of course, you don't have to keep a critical mass of such stuff in your head as the springboard for all the quiz questions I have to write. Tyler also had if not the largest than one of the largest presidential families (speaking of number of children). Many people don't know that Woodrow Wilson's father was also on the Confederate side. He moved the family from Ohio to Virginia because he was a southern sympathizer and wanted to be able to own slaves.

I thought I was doing well some years ago when I met Grover Cleveland's grandson, who was still very much in his prime (no more than 40 I would say). Of course, Cleveland married a much younger woman late in life. (He married her in fact exactly after her coming of age at 21 when she had already been his ward for years.)

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Re: Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by John F » Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:22 pm

I knew that Woodrow Wilson was born in Staunton, VA because that's where my mother's father was from, and she lived there for a few years herself. But I didn't know his family weren't Virginians but Ohioans. So you've got me there. :)

My own home town, Lancaster PA, is where James Buchanan died. His mansion, Wheatland, is one of the city's few tourist attractions, though a lot of people come to the Pennsylvania Dutch country that surrounds it. So I'm geographically related to one president who if anything was even worse than John Tyler, and to another who was largely incapacitated and incompetent during the last year of his presidency. I sure know how to pick 'em.
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Re: Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by lennygoran » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:19 pm

John F wrote:His mansion, Wheatland, is one of the city's few tourist attractions, though a lot of people come to the Pennsylvania Dutch country that surrounds it.
Haven't been to Wheatland but we love that Pennsylvania Dutch country! Regards, Len :)

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Re: Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by Donald Isler » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:56 pm

John B, if you were just 15 or 20 years older it would have been possible to meet Cleveland's wife, who died in 1947, and Theodore Roosevelt's second wife, who died in 1948 (16 years after campaigning for Hoover against FDR!). And I remember hearing of the death of Woodrow Wilson's second wife (unofficially Madam President) in 1961. She died on what would have been her husband's 105th birthday, as a bridge, or something else, was being dedicated in his memory.
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Re: Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by jbuck919 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:42 pm

Donald Isler wrote:John B, if you were just 15 or 20 years older it would have been possible to meet Cleveland's wife, who died in 1947, and Theodore Roosevelt's second wife, who died in 1948 (16 years after campaigning for Hoover against FDR!). And I remember hearing of the death of Woodrow Wilson's second wife (unofficially Madam President) in 1961. She died on what would have been her husband's 105th birthday, as a bridge, or something else, was being dedicated in his memory.
The Woodrow Wilson Bridge is part of the Washington Beltway. It is a drawbridge, famous for the traffic backups that occur when they must raise the draw span. Fortunately for me, it is on the Virginia side, and I lived in Maryland.

I was in my 20s when I met Cleveland's grandson. He is, or was, an Episcopal priest. You get involved in that church, you have the opportunity to meet a bunch of interesting people. Here is the piece I played for my prelude this morning. It is very rare that I find something non-Baroque that will fit my little organ, and even then I had to make some adjustments. I feel confident that Flor Peeters would have approved.


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Re: Tyler's Grandson Alive

Post by Donald Isler » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:59 pm

I like your prelude, John.

Interesting that Cleveland's grandson is an Episcopal priest. A somewhat more surprising situation is that of Rabbi Joshua Boettinger, who's a great-grandson of FDR and Eleanor.
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