Former Senator Danforth (R-MO) tells GOP: Dump Trump or the party may perish

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Former Senator Danforth (R-MO) tells GOP: Dump Trump or the party may perish

Post by jserraglio » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:18 pm

". . . our party has been corrupted by this hateful man, and it is now in peril. In honor of our past and in belief in our future, for the sake of our party and our nation, we Republicans must disassociate ourselves from Trump by expressing our opposition to his divisive tactics and by clearly and strongly insisting that he does not represent what it means to be a Republican."

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Re: Former Senator Danforth (R-MO) tells GOP: Dump Trump or the party may perish

Post by jbuck919 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:21 pm

A particularly notable case of wishful thinking. Anyone who thinks that Trump is not of the essence of modern Republicanism is thoroughly missing the point.

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Re: Former Senator Danforth (R-MO) tells GOP: Dump Trump or the party may perish

Post by jserraglio » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:20 am

jbuck919 wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:21 pm
A particularly notable case of wishful thinking. Anyone who thinks that Trump is not of the essence of modern Republicanism is thoroughly missing the point.
Tell that to Ben Sasse, Jeff Flake, or any number of other up-and-coming conservative Republicans who have criticized The Donald for the malignant mutation and renegade Democrat he is. A Father Coughlin minus the Roman collar and the vow of celibacy.

It is understandable why one might relish painting the entire GOP with a broad Trumpian brush. What the heck, I do it myself. And most of the GOP (notably McConnell and Ryan) richly deserve it, but, in all fairness, there are some Republicans that deserve respect. Danforth is one. Susan Collins is another. Charlie Dent and John Kasich too, most of the time.

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Re: Former Senator Danforth (R-MO) tells GOP: Dump Trump or the party may perish

Post by jbuck919 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:32 am

jserraglio wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:20 am
jbuck919 wrote:
Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:21 pm
A particularly notable case of wishful thinking. Anyone who thinks that Trump is not of the essence of modern Republicanism is thoroughly missing the point.
Tell that to Ben Sasse, Jeff Flake, or any number of other up-and-coming conservative Republicans who have criticized The Donald for the malignant mutation and renegade Democrat he is. A Father Coughlin minus the Roman collar and the vow of celibacy.

It is understandable why one might relish painting the entire GOP with a broad Trumpian brush. What the heck, I do it myself. And most of the GOP (notably McConnell and Ryan) richly deserve it, but, in all fairness, there are some Republicans that deserve respect. Danforth is one. Susan Collins is another. Charlie Dent and John Kasich too, most of the time.
And do you want "ordinary" conservative Republicans to maintain a hold on power in this country? They all have the same voter base which includes the kind of people who raised a riot in Charlottesville, they all oppose abortion and many of them even contraception, and they are all against government in direct service to the people. The best of them are so far to the right as to be unconscionable among the majority of voters in any other country. Protecting one's ass against Trump is not the same as being in service to the nation.

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Re: Former Senator Danforth (R-MO) tells GOP: Dump Trump or the party may perish

Post by jserraglio » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:17 am

jbuck919 wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:32 am
And do you want "ordinary" conservative Republicans to maintain a hold on power in this country? They all have the same voter base which includes the kind of people who raised a riot in Charlottesville, they all oppose abortion and many of them even contraception, and they are all against government in direct service to the people. The best of them are so far to the right as to be unconscionable among the majority of voters in any other country. Protecting one's ass against Trump is not the same as being in service to the nation.
If I had ever been politically engaged, I might agree. Until last November at least, I have always hibernated between elections. I don't espouse any of the conservative positions you mention. Instead, it's ad hominem in that Donald Trump's mere physical presence in the body politic with its slimy demagoguery is utterly repugnant to me. The conservative pundit Bill Kristol captured my feelings about Trump in a word:
Dear @realDonaldTrump,
You are a pig.
Sincerely,
Bill Kristol

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