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Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:38 am

Sue's old HP has always been a little slow-it's old-an XP-now it's shutting off after a while by itself--we're thinking about an relatively inexpensive all in one-could anyone offer any advice-I looked at these 3.Regards, Len


1. HP 22 All-in-One PC 21.5" Touch , Intel Core i3-8100T, Intel UHD Graphics 630, 1TB HDD, 4GB SDRAM, 22-c0023w

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-22-All-in ... gIatvD_BwE


2. Inspiron 22 3000

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp ... 7837639714

3. HP 22-c0016 3LA83AA#ABA All-in-One Desktop Computer, Intel Pentium

https://www.staples.com/hp-22-c0016-all ... t_24330671

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by John F » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:07 am

The library replaced its HP desktops with HP all-in-ones. When I first saw them I asked myself, "Where's the computer?" :) The one at the information desk works fine. I don't know what model they bought - I'll find out on Friday.
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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:44 am

John F wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:07 am
The one at the information desk works fine. I don't know what model they bought - I'll find out on Friday.
Thanks, I got my all in one some time ago and have been very happy with it-it has 8.1 which I'm fine with! Regards, Len

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by John F » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:28 pm

lennygoran wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:44 am
John F wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:07 am
The one at the information desk works fine. I don't know what model they bought - I'll find out on Friday.
Thanks, I got my all in one some time ago and have been very happy with it-it has 8.1 which I'm fine with! Regards, Len
That's Windows 8.1, right? Windows 10 is quite different, its user interface is similar to version 7's and it's full of improvements that make me regret I didn't upgrade from Windows XP some time ago.
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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:16 pm

John F wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:28 pm
That's Windows 8.1, right? Windows 10 is quite different, its user interface is similar to version 7's and it's full of improvements that make me regret I didn't upgrade from Windows XP some time ago.
Yeah windows 8.1-I took to it like duck to water! Regards, Len :D

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by John F » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:40 pm

lennygoran wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:16 pm
Yeah windows 8.1-I took to it like duck to water! Regards, Len :D
It's good you did, because many did not. As I understand it, the completely redesigned user interface was designed to be more usable on tablets and smartphones, but those with real computers didn't much. As I said, Windows 10 returns to the UI of previous versions, but it also has those panels as in 8.1 if you want to use them.
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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:13 am

John F wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:40 pm
It's good you did, because many did not. ... Windows 10 returns to the UI of previous versions
John yes I was very concerned about 8.1-I heard bad things and I tried to hold on to XP as long as I dared. I realize that any new computer for Sue will work with Windows 10. In the Compuserve Forum they've had things to say on my request for info-one point a few made is that a GB of only 4 may not cut it-I checked out my own Lenovo and it has 905 GB-4 does seem kind of low? Regards, Len

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by John F » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:03 am

My new HP desktop came with 12 gb of RAM. The Task Manager utility tells me that with Firefox running, I'm using about 40% of the memory, which is 4.8 gb and includes some stuff which you won't have. You might get by with 4 gb, then, but if that isn't enough, the computer will be swapping some of what you're running back and forth between RAM and the hard drive. Everything will still work but when, for example, Sue opens a new window or a new program, it will take a while to load, and there may be other delays depending on how she works.
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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:39 am

John F wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:03 am
My new HP desktop came with 12 gb of RAM. The Task Manager utility tells me that with Firefox running, I'm using about 40% of the memory, which is 4.8 gb and includes some stuff which you won't have. You might get by with 4 gb, then, but if that isn't enough, the computer will be swapping some of what you're running back and forth between RAM and the hard drive. Everything will still work but when, for example, Sue opens a new window or a new program, it will take a while to load, and there may be other delays depending on how she works.
John thanks-I was told in the CS forum I was confusing RAM with total memory-the Walmart has 4gb but for total memory is Internal storage: 1 TB 7200RPM SATA hard drive.
My lenovo bought in 2014 has 6 gb-it seems to allow for pretty quick movement from window to window. Of the 3 I am looking at only the walmart has the touch screen-that's pretty much a must for me and after talking to sue a must for her. Regards, Len

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by John F » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:48 am

Does Walmart offer that good a deal, that you should limit yourself to whatever they choose to stock? Hewlett Packard puts various models on sale from time to time, and as far as customer support is concerned, I'd prefer to buy from the maker.

Here's their page for all-in-ones:

https://store.hp.com/us/en/vwa/desktops/form=All-in-One

I see that the HP All-in-One 24-f0045z is on sale until 2/16 for $569.99. That's about $100 more than Walmart's price for the HP 22, but HP is offering a discount of $100 until Saturday, and it includes 8 gb RAM and a more powerful processor.

https://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-all-in-one-24-f0045z

If that's a budget buster for you, forget I said it. :)
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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:07 am

John F wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:48 am
Here's their page for all-in-ones:
John thanks for all the help-we decided to go with the Walmart-it's due to arrive next week and we'll pick it up at the local store. Regards, Len

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by John F » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:47 am

Hope it works well for Sue. If she and you need help with Windows 10 - I certainly did - I recommend David Pogue's book "Windows 10: The Missing Manual."
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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:09 am

John F wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:47 am
Hope it works well for Sue. If she and you need help with Windows 10 - I certainly did - I recommend David Pogue's book "Windows 10: The Missing Manual."
John thanks-if you needed help then I definitely will need help! Remember when you and others were working with me on Tapcis! Regards, Len

BTW I'm not even sure if I got the name right when I just typed Tapcis-was that the name-my memory is just deteriorating. :(

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:13 pm

John F wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:47 am
Hope it works well for Sue. If she and you need help with Windows 10
John we got back from NYC and picked up the computer-set up was a little tricky for a clod like me-I find Windows 10 a little pushy but basically we've gotten far-well me more that Sue. Anyway I don't like the way Windows 10 tries to push you toward things-I got Firefox as the default browser and got Norton security in after a battle with the McAffee. Sue is so happy with the screen size, the sleekness of the all-in-one and the touch screen. Again thanks for your advice! Regards, Len

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by John F » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:48 pm

Glad it's working out for you. Microsoft has designed Windows 10 to make it as easy as possible to get it up and running, which means they decide what browser, antivirus, etc. is part of the initial setup. If it's not what you want, you have to figure out how to replace it. I expect most users just go with it as is, but you've much more experience than most and know what you want, even if it's not always easy to get it.
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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:08 pm

John F wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:48 pm
If it's not what you want, you have to figure out how to replace it.
John thanks we're going at a slow steady pace-fortunately our computer needs are not that great-we're using google now and not bing-well I guess that's because we are using firefox. Regards, Len

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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by John F » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:12 am

You can use Google or Bing as you choose no matter which browser you use. To set the default search engine, In Firefox you click on Tools in the top menu, then Options, then Search, and use Default Search Engine.

You can also use other search engines in the Search Bar, setting them under One-Click Search Engines. I have YouTube, Amazon.com, Wikipedia, Merriam-Webster Dictionary, and a few others.
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Re: Advice On Buying A New All In One PC

Post by lennygoran » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:31 am

John F wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:12 am
You can also use other search engines in the Search Bar, setting them under One-Click Search Engines. I have YouTube, Amazon.com, Wikipedia, Merriam-Webster Dictionary, and a few others.
John thanks-some of my favorites! Regards, Len

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