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Rach3
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2020 election food for thought

Post by Rach3 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:50 am

Hewitt thinks Dems have no chance :
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-trump-wi ... 00761.html

Or, are the 40% going to be turned off by Trump's antics, an economy they perceive as benefiting rich mainly ? My previously expressed concern that 40 % just like Trump, and enough in 2020.

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by John F » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:05 am

Hewitt believes the election will depend on economic conditions, and these will be favorable in 18 months' time. Also, presumably, that Trump will get through that period OK. Two big ifs. A third is who the Democratic nominee will be, which presently is a mystery. No, forget about Hewitt and wait until the primary season begins.
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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by Rach3 » Wed May 01, 2019 2:06 pm

I have little faith in an electorate that allowed itself to be hosed by Trump in 2016.
New CNN poll out today is worrisome, too :
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/politics ... index.html

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by Rach3 » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:00 pm

“New technology has unraveled industries like entertainment, media, telecommunications and retailing, weakening the job security of millions of workers and helping to fuel populism. Carmakers, clearly, are next.”

NYT, June 6, 2019

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/busi ... nault.html?

Higher prices coming to a store near you , Trump and weather :

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/mon ... 346442001/

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by John F » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:00 pm

Rach3 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 2:06 pm
I have little faith in an electorate that allowed itself to be hosed by Trump in 2016.
New CNN poll out today is worrisome, too :
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/politics ... index.html
Don't forget that Trump lost the popular vote in 2018. It was the low-population states whose electoral college votes gave him the election, with an assist from the Russians. It all depends on whether the Democrats can nominate a candidate less unpopular than Hillary Clinton turned out to be, despite winning a majority of the popular votes, and whether potential spoilers keep out of the race (cf. Ralph Nader in 2000). I'm getting nostalgic for the smoke-filled rooms of yesteryear (without the smoke). :) Wait for the primaries and see what develops.
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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by jserraglio » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:13 pm

Only 5 of 20 potuses were denied reelection from 1900 on. Fittingly, 4 of those 5 were Republicans.

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by david johnson » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:41 am

As long as we do not elect hard-left/hard-right we will be on the best path. I support the electoral college.

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by John F » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:15 am

The electoral college is to Missouri's and Arkansas' advantage. With a population of 6.1 million, MO has 10 electoral college votes, each worth 610,000 popular votes. Arkansas, population 3 million, has 6 electoral college votes, each worth 500,000 popular votes. My state, New York, with a population of 19.5 million, has 29 electoral college votes, each worth 672,000 popular votes. No way is that just. But it's how the Constitution was drawn over 200 years ago, and Missouri and Arkansas will defend their unfair electoral advantage through thick and thin - unless, of course, they secede again. :mrgreen:
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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by lennygoran » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:14 am

david johnson wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:41 am
I support the electoral college.
Not me-small states have way too much power relative to the amount of people they have. Majority should rule imo. Regards, Len

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by jserraglio » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:15 am

lennygoran wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:14 am
david johnson wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:41 am
I support the electoral college.
Not me-small states have way too much power relative to the amount of people they have. Majority should rule imo. Regards, Len
John F wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:15 am
The electoral college is to Missouri's and Arkansas' advantage. With a population of 6.1 million, MO has 10 electoral college votes, each worth 610,000 popular votes. Arkansas, population 3 million, has 6 electoral college votes, each worth 500,000 popular votes. My state, New York, with a population of 19.5 million, has 29 electoral college votes, each worth 672,000 popular votes. No way is that just. But it's how the Constitution was drawn over 200 years ago, and Missouri and Arkansas will defend their unfair electoral advantage through thick and thin - unless, of course, they secede again. :mrgreen:
Like it, don't like it, the EC ain't goin' nowhere.

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by lennygoran » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:19 am

jserraglio wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:15 am
Like it, don't like it, the EC ain't goin' nowhere.
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Okay I'll give you that-still maybe Trump will be goin' SOMEwhere-namely PRISON! Regards, Len [Go Nancy Go] :lol:

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by jserraglio » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:27 am

lennygoran wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:19 am
still maybe Trump will be goin' SOMEwhere-namely PRISON! Regards, Len [Go Nancy Go]
Nancy's blowin' smoke. I'm reluctant to admit this, but -- no way any ex-POTUS is going to jail. Ain't gonna happen, sorry. Hard enough just to beat an incumbent who will likely raise and spend $1 bil.

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by lennygoran » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:35 am

jserraglio wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:27 am
Ain't gonna happen, sorry. Hard enough just to beat an incumbent who will likely raise and spend $1 bil.
I'm not as skeptical as you are-there could be a path for the unindicted co-conspirator! Regards, Len

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by jserraglio » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:31 am

lennygoran wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:35 am
jserraglio wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:27 am
Ain't gonna happen, sorry. Hard enough just to beat an incumbent who will likely raise and spend $1 bil.
I'm not as skeptical as you are-there could be a path for the unindicted co-conspirator! Regards, Len
Unindictable while in office; unconvictable when out. Short of that he'll cut a deal like Clinton did. Something harsh like a fine and no golf for 5 years. So no man's above the law? Well maybe not, but in the cases of Nixon and Clinton, and now Trump no doubt, the law chose to look the other way.

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by lennygoran » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:32 pm

jserraglio wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:31 am
unconvictable when out.
The sooner we get to test your theory the better! Regards, Len :lol:

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by jserraglio » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:57 am

lennygoran wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:32 pm
jserraglio wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:31 am
unconvictable when out.
The sooner we get to test your theory the better! Regards, Len :lol:
I suspect there's not a jury outside of DC (and not even even the Senate there) that would convict the motha.

I'd love to be his lawyer -- slam dunk acquittal -- but, given 'Midtown Mussolini's' penchant for stiffing the hired help, would have to demand payment upfront.

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by lennygoran » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:09 pm

jserraglio wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:57 am

but, given 'Midtown Mussolini's' penchant for stiffing the hired help, would have to demand payment upfront.
Sure can't blame you for that! Regards, Len :lol: [Go Dean Go]

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by barney » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:24 pm

jserraglio wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:57 am
lennygoran wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:32 pm
jserraglio wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:31 am
unconvictable when out.
The sooner we get to test your theory the better! Regards, Len :lol:
I suspect there's not a jury outside of DC (and not even even the Senate there) that would convict the motha.

I'd love to be his lawyer -- slam dunk acquittal -- but, given 'Midtown Mussolini's' penchant for stiffing the hired help, would have to demand payment upfront.
I think you just nailed it.

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Re: 2020 election food for thought

Post by lennygoran » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:48 pm

barney wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:24 pm
I think you just nailed it.
Barney not so fast-we got John Dean coming tomorrow-remember him from Watergate-the cancer he warned about. Regards, Len :)

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