What Happened to Marlon Brando?

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What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by dulcinea » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:10 pm

He is without a doubt one of the great actors of the 50s, but as time marched on his acting became nothing more than a collection of mannerisms so exaggerated that they amounted to self-parody. As everybody knows, he came to neglect his appearance to such an extent that FF Coppola in APOCAELLIPSIS NOW had to photograph him in the dark in order to prevent the public from laughing at how grotesquely fat he had become.
For the record, I don't think his ,,performance'' in THE GODDAMFATHER deserved any awards; all he did was stuff cotton into his cheeks and talk through his nose with an accent so thick that even English speakers needed on-screen captions to understand what he was mumbling.
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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by jbuck919 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:55 pm

What's hard to take is knowing that he had his lines in front of him when presumably the other actors had to memorize theirs. Of course, does knowing that mean we can say his performances were ineffective? Unlike Dulcinea, I dig him in The Godfather.

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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:51 am

Upon reflection, I think Pacino's role in both movies was stunning and Godfather would not have worked without him. Watching his evolution from dutiful uninvolved son to family master strategist by the end of Godfather was brilliant. He looked and sounded the part of every complex character along the way. Just think about the scene at the wedding, when his discomfort about the family business in front of Kate was palpable, and then juxtapose the scene of the baptism when he exacts his reckoning on the other families, intercut with his chilly calm and distracted mechanical responses to the priest's questions. Brando was fortunate that he (Brando) didn't have to do any more than he did.

Watching Michael's fall in Godfather II was just as mesmerizing. I think that pair of movies might be the most brilliant film saga of the last half of the 20th Century.
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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by smitty1931 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:28 pm

Try watching "the Fugitive Kind" with Brando and Woodward. This is Method acting at its worst. Brando in Mutiny on the Bounty has to be seen to be believed, he plays Christian as a prissy fop- about as far away from Gable's he man you can get. It was all down hill from Streetcar!

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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by jbuck919 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:03 pm

smitty1931 wrote:Try watching "the Fugitive Kind" with Brando and Woodward. This is Method acting at its worst. Brando in Mutiny on the Bounty has to be seen to be believed, he plays Christian as a prissy fop- about as far away from Gable's he man you can get. It was all down hill from Streetcar!
Trevor Howard said he couldn't understand a word Brando said in his "British" accent.

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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:47 pm

smitty1931 wrote: he plays Christian as a prissy fop
I've never cared for Brando, personally. I liked him in Tea House of the August Moon, but that's about it. I always thought his reputation was overblown but that it was my problem, not his acting.
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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by Barry » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:10 am

Corlyss_D wrote:Upon reflection, I think Pacino's role in both movies was stunning and Godfather would not have worked without him. Watching his evolution from dutiful uninvolved son to family master strategist by the end of Godfather was brilliant. He looked and sounded the part of every complex character along the way. Just think about the scene at the wedding, when his discomfort about the family business in front of Kate was palpable, and then juxtapose the scene of the baptism when he exacts his reckoning on the other families, intercut with his chilly calm and distracted mechanical responses to the priest's questions. Brando was fortunate that he (Brando) didn't have to do any more than he did.

Watching Michael's fall in Godfather II was just as mesmerizing. I think that pair of movies might be the most brilliant film saga of the last half of the 20th Century.
I agree with just about all of that. However, I still love Brando as Don Corleone to the extent that if I had a few free hours and were given the choice of seeing one or the other, I'd choose the original so I could watch Brando in action.
Having said that, I absolutely love both films and agree that together, they are as good as it gets.
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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by Chalkperson » Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:48 pm

If you ever wondered why his speech is so odd it's because he has a fat face, being ultra vain he lowered his jaw to thin out his cheeks, doing that changes your speech, try it and you will see what I mean, I used to to teach it to pudgy Rock Stars so that when they were photographed they looked thinner...

If they were old and craggy then we put them on the floor with their head pointing backwards a bit, the facial skin then falls upwards and takes about ten years off their age...try that too...

The last trick is to reverse the negative before showing people their portrait, because we only see ourselves in the mirror we always did that with "Real People" it worked a treat, they always said it was the best picture they had ever seen of themselves, so we charged double... :mrgreen:
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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by Barry » Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:47 am

Chalkperson wrote:If you ever wondered why his speech is so odd it's because he has a fat face, being ultra vain he lowered his jaw to thin out his cheeks, doing that changes your speech, try it and you will see what I mean, I used to to teach it to pudgy Rock Stars so that when they were photographed they looked thinner...

If they were old and craggy then we put them on the floor with their head pointing backwards a bit, the facial skin then falls upwards and takes about ten years off their age...try that too...

The last trick is to reverse the negative before showing people their portrait, because we only see ourselves in the mirror we always did that with "Real People" it worked a treat, they always said it was the best picture they had ever seen of themselves, so we charged double... :mrgreen:
Funny. The first thing I always notice whenever I gain a little weight is my sagging chin.

I think I also recall reading or hearing years ago that Brando had stuck something in his cheeks to puff them out for that role.
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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by Chalkperson » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:57 pm

Barry wrote: I think I also recall reading or hearing years ago that Brando had stuck something in his cheeks to puff them out for that role.
I meant in all his films... :mrgreen:
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Re: What Happened to Marlon Brando?

Post by Istvan » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:17 am

There's no doubt Brando was a very special actor: he was extremely photogenic, with tremendous, electrifying screen presence. He was also capable of playing characters other than himself, which is rather rare. However, I don't really think he achieved his full potential: he gave up the theatre too early and, above all, lacked self-discipline: he allowed himself to become grossly overweight and unfit and his behaviour was increasingly eccentric and difficult.
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