TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Here's the place to talk about DVDs (or VHS) films and movies you have seen on television and recommend or don't recommend. Discuss actors and scores, too.

Moderators: Lance, Corlyss_D

Post Reply
Wallingford
Posts: 4534
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:31 pm
Location: Brush, Colorado

TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by Wallingford » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:25 pm

Tuesday, Turner Classic Movies is devoting close to a full day devoted to Stanley Donen's efforts, particularly his lesser-known early musicals (seen during the wee hours).

Anyone have anything to say for this legendary director?
If I could tell my mom and dad
That the things we never had
Never mattered we were always ok
Getting ready for Christmas day
--Paul Simon

HoustonDavid
Posts: 1222
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:20 am
Location: Houston, Texas, USA

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by HoustonDavid » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:03 pm

Neil:

I have seven of his films (six musicals and one romantic comedy) in my moderately substantial
DVD collection. Five of his six musicals in my collection cannot be considered lesser-known by
any standard:

American In Paris
Funny Face
Pajama Game
Singin' In The Rain
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers

"Kismet" was his total flop in every sense, except for using the glorious melodies of Alexander
Borodin, which is the sole reason I purchased it. The seventh of his films in my collection is the
light-hearted romantic comedy "Indiscreet" starring Ingrid Bergman and Cary Grant. Not my
usual taste, but it was a gift. I personally saw "The Pajama Game" on Broadway in 1955, shortly
after young Shirley MacLaine took over the lead when her predecessor famously broke her ankle.
Certainly Donen is most famous for "Singin' In The Rain" considered by many to be one of the five
greatest films ever made.
"May You be born in interesting (maybe confusing?) times" - Chinese Proverb (or Curse)

DavidRoss
Posts: 3384
Joined: Mon May 30, 2005 7:05 am
Location: Northern California

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by DavidRoss » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:05 pm

Singing in the Rain is one of the greatest flicks of all time, and it was hardly his only hit. I have a soft spot for Charade, too. Though it's a bit dated, it's still one of the best Hitchcock films Hitch didn't make, and the cast is great fun!
"Most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." ~Leo Tolstoy

"It is the highest form of self-respect to admit our errors and mistakes and make amends for them. To make a mistake is only an error in judgment, but to adhere to it when it is discovered shows infirmity of character." ~Dale Turner

"Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either." ~Albert Einstein
"Truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it; but, in the end, there it is." ~Winston Churchill

Image

HoustonDavid
Posts: 1222
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:20 am
Location: Houston, Texas, USA

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by HoustonDavid » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:27 pm

"Charade" is certainly a film on my "to be acquired" list. Like many here, especially Lance, I am a
classic film fan. Apparently you are too, David. Do you collect as well as watch? I noticed a few
months ago that Lance was diverting some of his music collection funds to film collecting. I told
him he should do what I did: use the savings from quitting smoking to build a collection. In my
case, it was the beginning of a serious music collection, but Lance doesn't need to start a music
collection. :wink:
"May You be born in interesting (maybe confusing?) times" - Chinese Proverb (or Curse)

DavidRoss
Posts: 3384
Joined: Mon May 30, 2005 7:05 am
Location: Northern California

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by DavidRoss » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:46 pm

My wife likes old musicals and cheesy disaster flicks, I like classic Westerns and mysteries, and we both love screwball comedies. We rarely buy DVDs any longer, however--not only because our income has been cut by two-thirds in the past year, but also because the growing availability of streaming movies over the Web has made collecting them seem pretty pointless to us. We've acquired something like 400 DVDs over the years, but nowadays can watch most of them via netflix streaming--including Charade !
"Most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." ~Leo Tolstoy

"It is the highest form of self-respect to admit our errors and mistakes and make amends for them. To make a mistake is only an error in judgment, but to adhere to it when it is discovered shows infirmity of character." ~Dale Turner

"Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either." ~Albert Einstein
"Truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it; but, in the end, there it is." ~Winston Churchill

Image

Wallingford
Posts: 4534
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:31 pm
Location: Brush, Colorado

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by Wallingford » Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:59 pm

HoustonDavid wrote:"Charade" is certainly a film on my "to be acquired" list. Like many here, especially Lance, I am a
classic film fan. Apparently you are too, David. Do you collect as well as watch? I noticed a few
months ago that Lance was diverting some of his music collection funds to film collecting. I told
him he should do what I did: use the savings from quitting smoking to build a collection. In my
case, it was the beginning of a serious music collection, but Lance doesn't need to start a music
collection. :wink:
I'm directing most of MY music funds these days ('fact, the past two years) to amassing a DVD-R library of the classic directors, and I'm setting the VCR tomorrow for a good nine hours' taping (and subsequent DVD-R transferring). Before, I had these Donen efforts in my library:

Seven Brides For Seven Brothers
Charade
On The Town
Royal Wedding
Kismet
Indiscreet
The Grass Is Greener
Movie Movie
Surprise Package


Tomorrow, I'm catching these two early musicals (which Donen himself didn't care much for):

Fearless Fagan
Give A Girl A Break


I should have a good five or six discs' worth of his efforts by then.
If I could tell my mom and dad
That the things we never had
Never mattered we were always ok
Getting ready for Christmas day
--Paul Simon

HoustonDavid
Posts: 1222
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:20 am
Location: Houston, Texas, USA

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by HoustonDavid » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:14 pm

Neil and David (and other interested parties):

The focus of my collection is the great ones: major award winners, primarily Academy Awards and
films listed as "Greatest" by American Film Institute, and to a lesser extent by other reputable film
critics. I have acquired most of the "Best Film" Oscar winners, and a high percentage of AFI's Top
100 Films. I also have a decently large collection of musicals, music concerts, and opera DVDs, and
a serious investment in classic foreign films, and films owned by Criterion. I have selectively acquired
several boxed television series, such as Seinfeld and The Sopranos.

Of course, like all collectors I'm sure, I have acquired nearly all of my personal favorite films. I don't
focus on film genres or specific directors or actors, although nearly all of the greats are well represented.
Until you mentioned him Neil, I didn't know how many of Donen's films I had in my collection. The software
I use to catalogue my collections (film, music, and books) allows me to search for almost anything of interest
concerning my listings, including items I would like to acquire.

I understand David's switch to streaming films; it is certainly economical compared to purchasing or renting,
and the available library would rival Chalkie's music library, and include almost anything of interest. It is also
convenient in that you can watch anything anytime, and as often as you wish at a very low monthly cost. It
is tempting as an alternative because it has all of the advantages of owning a very large library without the
cost of purchasing, shelving, and maintaining same, or the bother of recording it from film broadcasts. I must
admit I'm seriously thinking about it.
"May You be born in interesting (maybe confusing?) times" - Chinese Proverb (or Curse)

karlhenning
Composer-in-Residence
Posts: 9801
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:12 am
Location: Boston, MA
Contact:

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by karlhenning » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:18 am

I'm a sucker for Charade.

Cheers,
~Karl
Karl Henning, PhD
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston, Massachusetts
http://members.tripod.com/~Karl_P_Henning/
http://henningmusick.blogspot.com/
Published by Lux Nova Press
http://www.luxnova.com/

jbuck919
Military Band Specialist
Posts: 26866
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:15 pm
Location: Stony Creek, New York

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by jbuck919 » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:26 am

karlhenning wrote:I'm a sucker for Charade.

Cheers,
~Karl
I must remedy the fact that I have never seen it all the way through. Of the others, I watch Seven Brides for I'm a Lonesome Polecat every time it comes on because that number does for me something that nothing else in all of movie musicals does. And I've never seen Pajama Game, but I'm reminded of a distinguished poster who shall remain nameless who once asked us to identify a piece for which he provided a sketchy tune and it was Hernando's Hideaway.

There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
-- Johann Sebastian Bach

Wallingford
Posts: 4534
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:31 pm
Location: Brush, Colorado

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by Wallingford » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:54 pm

This afternoon they had Donen's Deep In My Heart, a musical about operetta composer Sigmund Romberg, starring Jose Ferrer (with once-spouse Rosemary Clooney in a supporting role). I'll be playing it back soon.
If I could tell my mom and dad
That the things we never had
Never mattered we were always ok
Getting ready for Christmas day
--Paul Simon

Wallingford
Posts: 4534
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:31 pm
Location: Brush, Colorado

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by Wallingford » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:55 pm

Oh, and--by the way--American In Paris was directed by VINCENT MINNELLI.
If I could tell my mom and dad
That the things we never had
Never mattered we were always ok
Getting ready for Christmas day
--Paul Simon

HoustonDavid
Posts: 1222
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:20 am
Location: Houston, Texas, USA

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by HoustonDavid » Tue Apr 13, 2010 9:37 pm

Your absolutely right Neil, don't know how his name came up alongside Vincent Minelli; I assumed
they both had a hand on the film, but IMDb of course confirmed Minelli was the sole director, which
would be normal on most films. One of my source software research files slipped it by me and I didn't
check it out. I've corrected it of course.
"May You be born in interesting (maybe confusing?) times" - Chinese Proverb (or Curse)

DavidRoss
Posts: 3384
Joined: Mon May 30, 2005 7:05 am
Location: Northern California

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by DavidRoss » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:31 pm

HoustonDavid wrote:Your absolutely right Neil, don't know how his name came up alongside Vincent Minelli; I assumed
they both had a hand on the film, but IMDb of course confirmed Minelli was the sole director, which
would be normal on most films. One of my source software research files slipped it by me and I didn't
check it out. I've corrected it of course.
A reasonable mistake, given Donen's long association with Kelly.
"Most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." ~Leo Tolstoy

"It is the highest form of self-respect to admit our errors and mistakes and make amends for them. To make a mistake is only an error in judgment, but to adhere to it when it is discovered shows infirmity of character." ~Dale Turner

"Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either." ~Albert Einstein
"Truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it; but, in the end, there it is." ~Winston Churchill

Image

Wallingford
Posts: 4534
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:31 pm
Location: Brush, Colorado

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by Wallingford » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:24 pm

....and I stand corrected on one error: VINCENTE is spelled with an "E" at the end. :oops:
If I could tell my mom and dad
That the things we never had
Never mattered we were always ok
Getting ready for Christmas day
--Paul Simon

Chalkperson
Disposable Income Specialist
Posts: 17659
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:19 pm
Location: New York City
Contact:

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by Chalkperson » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:45 am

karlhenning wrote:I'm a sucker for Charade.

Cheers,
~Karl
Me too, and I love Henry Mancini's great score... :D
Sent via Twitter by @chalkperson

HoustonDavid
Posts: 1222
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:20 am
Location: Houston, Texas, USA

Re: TOMORROW: Stanley Donen's birthday commemorated on TMC

Post by HoustonDavid » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:57 am

That makes two of us, Neil. It's correct in my catalogue, thankfully. I suspect it is a very
common mistake, unless you're Italian, or names Liza.
"May You be born in interesting (maybe confusing?) times" - Chinese Proverb (or Curse)

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests