Bill Clinton's Toughest Issue Since Leaving Office

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Bill Clinton's Toughest Issue Since Leaving Office

Post by Ralph » Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:53 am

Goats, cows offered for Chelsea

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -- A Kenyan says he offered Bill Clinton 40 goats and 20 cows for his daughter's hand in marriage five years ago -- and is still waiting for an answer.

Godwin Kipkemoi Chepkurgor told the East Africa Standard newspaper last week that he wrote to Clinton asking for Chelsea's hand in 2000 during the then-president's visit to Kenya.

Chepkurgor, a 36-year-old elected city councilor in Nakuru, recounted writing to the U.S president through the Kenyan government.

He described his plans for a grand wedding presided over by South African Nobel Peace Prize winner Archbishop Desmond Tutu. He named then-President Daniel arap Moi and the president of his university as references.

"Had I succeeded in wooing Chelsea, I would have had a grand wedding," he told the Standard in an interview published Friday during Clinton's recent visit to Kenya.

Chepkurgor said his letter praised Clinton's leadership and commended his wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, for standing by her husband "like an African woman" in the face of the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

The electrical engineering graduate said he promised to pay his would-be father-in-law 20 cows and 40 goats in dowry for his only daughter in accordance with African tradition.

But he said the letter prompted security checks -- on him, his family and his classmates, and he was summoned to the Foreign Ministry in Nairobi for a meeting that he missed because of his graduation from university.

A National Security Intelligence Service officer told the Standard the letter probably never made it out of the office.

"We gathered that this man was a teetotaler and a staunch Christian who seemed to have been struck by Chelsea, and I thought maybe he just took the joke too far," he said.

Chepkurgor vowed to remain single until he gets an answer to his proposal to marry Chelsea, 25.
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Gregory Kleyn

Post by Gregory Kleyn » Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:56 pm

Now if that Kenyan had offered his sister (or some other pretty young tribeswoman) to Bill for the weekend rather than pigs and goats Chelsea may well have been his.

Brendan

Post by Brendan » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:03 pm

I've been wondering for some time now how to improve my chances/technique with the ladies. Why didn't I think of this before? Now I just need to get some cows and goats.

Gregory Kleyn

Post by Gregory Kleyn » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:11 pm

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Post by Ralph » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:30 pm

Brendan wrote:I've been wondering for some time now how to improve my chances/technique with the ladies. Why didn't I think of this before? Now I just need to get some cows and goats.
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Doesn't work in our culture. But if you offer CDs...
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Brendan

Post by Brendan » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:41 pm

Ralph,

Tried that. But classical CDs seem even more unfashionable than cows and goats in these parts. Seriously, the question "What music do you like?" is all too often the end of the evening. The other killer (and signal of massive geek-overload) is "You like to read? Really? What are you reading now?"

Cows and goats haven't been rejected yet, so at least there's some hope there. :wink:

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Post by Ralph » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:22 pm

Brendan wrote:Ralph,

Tried that. But classical CDs seem even more unfashionable than cows and goats in these parts. Seriously, the question "What music do you like?" is all too often the end of the evening. The other killer (and signal of massive geek-overload) is "You like to read? Really? What are you reading now?"

Cows and goats haven't been rejected yet, so at least there's some hope there. :wink:
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I have had problems when some winsome lass sees the books piled up next to my comfortable living room chair are biographies of Burke and Hare, Sawny Bean and a few other real characters.

Seriously, I've never found asking about music or relating my own interests to be a turnoff SO LONG as I'm careful to say that everyone is entitled to his/her own tastes and I don't want to convert anyone.
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Post by Haydnseek » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:39 pm

Brendan wrote:Ralph,

Tried that. But classical CDs seem even more unfashionable than cows and goats in these parts. Seriously, the question "What music do you like?" is all too often the end of the evening. The other killer (and signal of massive geek-overload) is "You like to read? Really? What are you reading now?"

Cows and goats haven't been rejected yet, so at least there's some hope there. :wink:
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You call up some painful memories. I remember walking home from the record shop with a purchase during my university days and bumping into a girl I had a slight acquaintance with. Her smile told me she was not indifferent to me and I felt the same about her. “What did you buy?” she asked. “The music soundtrack to a 1936 Fred Astaire movie,” I answered. Her face went blank and the silence lasted far too long. She never spoke to me again. I’m not sure but she may have carried a canister of mace around with her from that day on.
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Post by Ralph » Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:47 pm

Haydnseek wrote:
Brendan wrote:Ralph,

Tried that. But classical CDs seem even more unfashionable than cows and goats in these parts. Seriously, the question "What music do you like?" is all too often the end of the evening. The other killer (and signal of massive geek-overload) is "You like to read? Really? What are you reading now?"

Cows and goats haven't been rejected yet, so at least there's some hope there. :wink:
Bovids are a girl's best friend.

You call up some painful memories. I remember walking home from the record shop with a purchase during my university days and bumping into a girl I had a slight acquaintance with. Her smile told me she was not indifferent to me and I felt the same about her. “What did you buy?” she asked. “The music soundtrack to a 1936 Fred Astaire movie,” I answered. Her face went blank and the silence lasted far too long. She never spoke to me again. I’m not sure but she may have carried a canister of mace around with her from that day on.
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My firend,

You were lucky that she acted so quickly. Imagine if a relationship had started. Then you'd hear every night "Honeykins, do we really have to hear that Dittersdim music again? It takes me sooo out of the mood"
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