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Review of new history of Western music

Post by Charles » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:08 am

A review in NYRB of a new history of a thousand years of Western music. The reviewer takes the author to task for some shortcomings, but the review also provides a handy overview of this history for an uninformed person like me. This is part one of a two part review, and reaches the threshold of the modern era with Monteverdi.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18725

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Post by C.B. » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:49 am

Fascinating--one can always count on the iconoclastic Taruskin for an engaging read, and Charles Rosen's review is nearly as interesting.

I doubt, however, that a three-volume work, however stimulating, will ever supplant the firmly-established, single-volume Grout in undergraduate music history courses.
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Post by Blip » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:54 am

I get most of my good ideas from Rosen. The breadth of his knoweldge is daunting. I'll be interested in reading his review of the Taruskin's later volumes, since Taruskin and I don't agree on a lot when it comes to moderism. It always surprises me how people like Taruskin and Maynard Solomon, who are so good when it comes to the mainstream classical composer, make fools of themselves over a figure like Charles Ives.
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Post by jbuck919 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:48 am

He gives us a review of a history of all of western music and it (the review) is written by Charles Rosen. I could deal with the discovery of a tenth Beethoven symphony more easily. Maybe later.

As for C.B.'s comment about Grout, although his book has been through many editions, he was an "early music specialist." Everything stops at 1600 for people who write these comprehensive works, and it will be interesting to see if the latest one is an exception.

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Post by karlhenning » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:31 pm

jbuck919 wrote:As for C.B.'s comment about Grout, although his book has been through many editions, he was an "early music specialist." Everything stops at 1600 for people who write these comprehensive works . . . .
For that very reason, Grout's days are numbered, I should think. He spends half his book with material which really only an ancient music specialist cares about.
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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:28 pm

Grout's never been my #1 source. I rely heavily on Crocker, moreso than any other. He is (I hope he's still alive) an EM specialist, so that area is well-represented. That is the area usually slighted in single-volume texts. However, the Crocker, now avaiable in an inexpensive but well made Dover pb hasn't been refreshed since its original publication date of 1966. It lacks any of the historical refinements that have resulted from the explosion of interest in EM. I will definitely keep an eye out for this new one. Thanks, Charles.
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Post by jbuck919 » Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:36 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:Grout's never been my #1 source. I rely heavily on Crocker, moreso than any other. He is (I hope he's still alive) an EM specialist, so that area is well-represented. That is the area usually slighted in single-volume texts. However, the Crocker, now avaiable in an inexpensive but well made Dover pb hasn't been refreshed since its original publication date of 1966. It lacks any of the historical refinements that have resulted from the explosion of interest in EM. I will definitely keep an eye out for this new one. Thanks, Charles.
Are you trying to tell us that after all this time the EM in your signature means "Early Music" and not "Execrating Moderates"?

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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:18 pm

jbuck919 wrote:Are you trying to tell us that after all this time the EM in your signature means "Early Music" and not "Execrating Moderates"?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

:cry: Alas, tis true. That's what it stands for. Waybackwhen on MSN, I was the only early music aficianado there. People at work started calling me "the barefoot contessa" because I ran around the office unshod. Thus a moniker was born.
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Post by RebLem » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:08 am

I rely on two books by David Ewen, The Complete Book of Classical Music and The World of Twentieth Century Music. I also rely on Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians 7th ed, ed by the redoutable Nicolas Slonimsky. And then there's Harpers Dictionary of Music and a number of internet sources, as well.
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