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MAY 22

Births and Deaths

• Born 1907: Marta Angelici, soprano, died 09-11-1973
• Born 1924: Charles Aznavour, pop singer
• Born 1900: Vina Bovy, soprano, died 05-16-1983
• Born 1933: John Browning, pianist, died 01-26-2003
• Born 1891: Lucien Caillet, composer/conductor, died 01-03-1985
• Died 1989: Steven De Groot, pianist, born 1953
• Died 1993: Mieczyslaw Horszowski, pianist/teacher, born 06-23-1892
• Born 1925: James King, tenor, died 11-20-2005
• Died 1879: Friedrich August Kummer, cellist/oboist/composer, born 08-05-1797
• Born 1897: Marcelle Meyer, pianist, died 11-18-1958
• Born 1934: Peter Nero, pianist/conductor
• Died 1949: Hans Pfitzner, composer/conductor, born 05-05-1869
• Born 1922: Gerhard Taschner, violinist, died 07-21-1976
• Born 1813: Richard Wagner, composer, died 02-13-1883

Musical Quote for Today

To [Richard] Wagner at birth, the gods gave two gifts: a capacity to receive and to retain the most various and the most intense impressions, and, as he prhases it, 'the ever intensified spirit that ever seeks new things.'"
—Dannreuther

What happened on this day in music history?

The corner-stone of Richard Wagner's theater in Bayreuth was put in place on this day in 1872.

Lance wrote:Born 1813: Richard Wagner, composer, born 02-13-1883 [father-in-law of composer/pianist Franz Liszt]

Shouldn't this be the other way around?

Lance wrote:

Gary wrote:

Lance wrote:Born 1813: Richard Wagner, composer, born 02-13-1883 [father-in-law of composer/pianist Franz Liszt]

Shouldn't this be the other way around?

Wagner married Cosima Liszt, Franz Liszt's daughter. That would make Richard Wagner Franz Liszt's father-in-law, crazy at it may sound. Cosima was previously married to pianist/conductor Hans von Bülow, who frequently conducted Wagner's operas at Wagner's request. Ah yes, there must've been some shennanigans involved!

Sorry, Lance, that still makes no sense to me. You're saying that if some guy marries your daughter, he'll become your father-in-law, which, at the same time, makes you his son-in-law?

I think there was a mistake in the highlighting process?

"Born 1813: Richard Wagner, composer, born 02-13-1883"

Gary wrote:

Lance wrote:

Gary wrote:

Lance wrote:Born 1813: Richard Wagner, composer, born 02-13-1883 [father-in-law of composer/pianist Franz Liszt]

Shouldn't this be the other way around?

Wagner married Cosima Liszt, Franz Liszt's daughter. That would make Richard Wagner Franz Liszt's father-in-law, crazy at it may sound. Cosima was previously married to pianist/conductor Hans von Bülow, who frequently conducted Wagner's operas at Wagner's request. Ah yes, there must've been some shennanigans involved!

Sorry, Lance, that still makes no sense to me. You're saying that if some guy marries your daughter, he'll become your father-in-law, which, at the same time, makes you his son-in-law?

This is what happens when you're working on five hours of sleep - and still going! My apologies. My head was ... somewhere where it shouldn't have been. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I have since changed it and the born/died corrections. I'm glad you fabulous CMGers are on your toes more than me. I've had a PM about this too, so I know people are reading and observing.

hautbois wrote:I think there was a mistake in the highlighting process?

"Born 1813: Richard Wagner, composer, born 02-13-1883"

Yes, typing the translations from print at 125wpm sometimes produces these things. I am behind in keeping these notices more timely so in playing catch-up, the old slogan, "haste makes waste" turns out to be very true.

Thank you for pointing out the error.

Lance wrote: This is what happens when you're working on five hours of sleep - and still going! My apologies. My head was ... somewhere where it shouldn't have been. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I have since changed it and the born/died corrections. I'm glad you fabulous CMGers are on your toes more than me. I've had a PM about this too, so I know people are reading and observing.

No problem.

Whew! For minute there, I thought I was in an episode of The Twilight Zone where everything was opposite.

Gary wrote:

Lance wrote: This is what happens when you're working on five hours of sleep - and still going! My apologies. My head was ... somewhere where it shouldn't have been. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I have since changed it and the born/died corrections. I'm glad you fabulous CMGers are on your toes more than me. I've had a PM about this too, so I know people are reading and observing.

No problem.

Whew! For minute there, I thought I was in an episode of The Twilight Zone where everything was opposite.

Well, I must've been in The Twilight Zone myself. I scratch my head wondering where I was. Speaking of The Twilight Zone, Rod Serling, the program's creator (and one of my fav programs) was from Binghamton, New York. One of our concert venues has a large, continuous display of his there. Having watched the original programs and viewed the multiple re-runs, it was interesting to see how many times he incorporated "Binghamton, New York" and surrounding towns and villages into the plots.

Lance wrote:...it was interesting to see how many times he incorporated "Binghamton, New York" and surrounding towns and villages into the plots.

Maybe it was a subliminal message to get people to move there.

Gary wrote:

Lance wrote:...it was interesting to see how many times he incorporated "Binghamton, New York" and surrounding towns and villages into the plots.

Maybe it was a subliminal message to get people to move there.

You make a good point. However, I never saw that occur. In fact this part of New York state is in a huge economic decline, as seems to be happening in most of the Northeast.