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Printed music

Post by SamLowry » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:48 pm

Can anyone recommend sources for printed classical music, that are free or relatively cheap? Can much be found at good libraries (virtual or otherwise)?

Should vast amounts of music written two or three hundred years ago be available free over the internet? Is Google headed in that direction?

In my case I've only learned so far to read keyboard music, but lately getting interested in string quartets has me wanting to look at the scores.

On a separate topic, I was listening to a string quartet movement by Haydn the other day -- Op. 17, #6, III -- and wondered how it would sound on the organ. My initial conclusion was that it wasn't ideally suited to such a transfer (but it's not as if I've ever tried such a thing). The Bach I found myself thinking of was the Adagio between the Toccata and Fugue in C Major. And the slow movement of the Italian Concerto, though that's obviously not for organ.

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Post by Ralph » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:15 pm

Dover puts out many scores in handsome, high quality editions at fairly low prices.
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Post by Ralph » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:17 pm

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Post by Brendan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:29 pm

Ralph,

Thanks for this link - I think. More money to spend, but Schubert's quintets for $3.95? Verdi's Requiem for $9.95? Pity they don't ship all titles to Australia.

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Post by Gary » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:03 pm

Brendan wrote:Pity they don't ship all titles to Australia.
I wonder why there isn't an Amazon.com in your neck of the woods. Is there a major online store whose headquarters is located in Australia?
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Post by Brendan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:34 pm

No major outlets that I know of. There's Amazon UK, Amazon France, Amazon Germany, all of which I order through regularly. I'm sure there's some local outlet, but the web is dominated by American and European retailers so I continue to contribute to our balance of trade deficit. The region-coding of DVDs still makes me mad - have to buy an all-regions player in the new year to see all the movies I want.

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Post by Gary » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:46 pm

Brendan wrote:No major outlets that I know of. There's Amazon UK, Amazon France, Amazon Germany, all of which I order through regularly. I'm sure there's some local outlet, but the web is dominated by American and European retailers so I continue to contribute to our balance of trade deficit.
That is unfortunate.

Brendan wrote: The region-coding of DVDs still makes me mad - have to buy an all-regions player in the new year to see all the movies I want.
I got an all-regions player several years ago so I could view my ballet DVDs, purchased abroad. Worth every penny!
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Post by jbuck919 » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:39 pm

A tremendous amount of sheet music can simply be downloaded from the Internet without fear of copyright violation. Let me clear my head after the Thanksgiving break (all that turkey in German, you know) and I can be more detailed.

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Post by Gary » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:24 pm

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Post by Brendan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:08 pm

jbuck919 wrote:A tremendous amount of sheet music can simply be downloaded from the Internet without fear of copyright violation. Let me clear my head after the Thanksgiving break (all that turkey in German, you know) and I can be more detailed.
Do tell! I bought Maisky's Cello Suites to get the scores - and the scores remain my most valued part of the Mutter/Orkis LvB violin sonatas.

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Post by Auntie Lynn » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:12 am

Being in the business, I have to get the top of the line. Best are Henle, Kalmus, Peters, Vienna Urtext and Barenreiter (although they are frequently fulla mistakes). Dover does NOT stay open on the music rack and you end up slapping the music around and chasing it across the floor. Tiresome - especially when you play fast. And the scores will do you more good than all the CD's in the world - you simply learn more...

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Post by aurora » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:24 am

here are the best free sheet music sites that I’ve found on the web so far... & I have looked quite a bit. Mind you, this is from a violinist’s perspective…so I wouldn’t know good piano ones:

there are some real gems… .especially Baroque stuff.. at the Werner Icking Sheet Music Archive, like the Bach Solo Violin Sonatas & Partitas and the Solo Cello Suites… in versions for violin, viola or cello in both cases.

Here's another good site for Baroque music

& you can get choir & piano reductions for most of the the Bach Cantatashere

I recently got the scores of all the Shostakovich 4tets from this Russian site & it has lots of other great stuff. Parts of it are under construction at the moment….. don’t know how long that’ll last


here’s a couple of free sheet music directories:
http://www.freesheetmusic.net/
http://www.free-scores.com/index_uk.php3
& this site is a member of all kind of webrings that could put you on to other sites


There’s also printable sheet music (parts & scores) on CD. For about $20 US , you get a whole pile of music- like all of Haydn’s string 4tets on (>70) or the complete symphonies of Mahler & Bruckner - on one CD

http://www.cdsheetmusic.com/
http://www.orchmusiclibrary.com/


As for libraries, these are among my bookmarks
http://library.uncg.edu/
http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/variations/ ... honic.html

don't know how their online stuff is, but the Philadelphia Library is supposed to have one of the best sheet music collections:
http://www.library.phila.gov/mus/chamber.htm


lastly, these require membership & I don’t know what their policies are, but they look like good collections:

http://www.ebrary.com/stanford/browse2/indexbh.html
http://www.musedata.org/

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Post by ch1525 » Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:52 am

Auntie Lynn wrote:Dover does NOT stay open on the music rack and you end up slapping the music around and chasing it across the floor. Tiresome - especially when you play fast.
Haha!!! I have one volume of Beethoven's Piano Sonatas by Dover and I simply can't use it because it won't stay open on the piano. It is unusable!!! The other volume I have is by Schirmer and that one doesn't stay open either though. :cry:

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Post by MahlerSnob » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:16 pm

I don't know too much about free music on the internet, but Dover is good for most intents and purposes. Their scores are cheap and reasonably well made (they stay open if you use them enough and bend them backwards a bit). I have problems with Dover because of the accuracy of their scores. Dover scores are usually re-prints of early publications that have gone into public domain. That's why they're so cheap. As a result, Dover scores are not the most recent critical editions and are often full of mistakes. This isn't a problem if you're buying the score for study purposes only, but when I use them for conducting I have to devote several hours to going through the Dover scores with the newer Barenreiter editions and making corrections. The past two days have actually been devoted to correcting the Dover Schubert 5.
As someone mentioned, Barenreiter Urtext is not perfect (the above mentioned Schubert is also full of errors), but it is at least a more current edition. The others to look at are Boosey & Hawkes, Schirmer, Kalmus (lots of mistakes), etc. If you can find used copies by some of the older publishers (Arrow, Oliver Ditson, AMP, etc.) you can get good editions for very cheap.
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Post by Auntie Lynn » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:39 pm

Exactement! Anyway, there is a bookbinder in SF that will spiral bind music volumes. My great good friends Hutchins and Rea in good old Allana, Joja have several spiral bound music books - most recent purchase was volume 5 of the Kalmus Schumann - and boy! is that the answer! Ergo, I plan to take to this bookbinder the Schirmer book of Bach Transcriptions (fab volume), a few other Schumann and most of my Dover albums, probably bought in a moment of hysteria... My teacher says a lot of the music in the "center fold" simply does not get learned...

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Post by SamLowry » Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:59 pm

Thank you!

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