Memorable Threads - And Ralph, You're In it

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Memorable Threads - And Ralph, You're In it

Post by jack stowaway » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:55 pm

Over the years, on different boards, certain threads remain lodged in the mind for various reasons: they were funny, tragic, lively, controversial etc.

One such thread occured on Classical Insites, many moons ago. It was addressed to our very own Ralph. Someone, I believe it was 'Teresa' initiated the thread with a simple post: 'Hi, Ralph'. Dozens of subsequent posts piled up in quick succession, the thread diverging into many different topic areas and embracing every form of polemic. And then, about 60 posts later came Ralph's magnificently eloquent reply: 'Hi, Teresa.'

Ralph, do you remember which thread I am talking about?

There was also a very long thread on evolution which made an impression, but I can't quite recall on which board I saw it. I seem to remember John Bleau and Pizza taking part, but I could be wrong.

Do current posters recall any threads [on this or other boards] which similarly struck them as memorable for various reasons?

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Post by Barry » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:04 pm

There was the Vietnam thread on one of our old boards (maybe the Delphi one), on which Heck and either Kevin or Brendan (or was it both of them?) went back and forth basically repeating the same arugments for days and days and possibly weeks.

The first flame war I was involved in on one of our boards was on CI in either late '97 or early '98. It was called "Yet another HvK Thread" I think. It was of course about whether Karajan, and Furtwangler, were Nazis and wrong to take the courses of action they did during the 30s and early 40s. I think that one went on for a while too.
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Post by jack stowaway » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:17 pm

CI had some wonderful flame wars. And they jumped from thread to thread. There were definite 'camps' involved.

I remember the 'HvK' thread. If I recall correctly, the posters also dragged in Elisabeth Schwarzkopf et al.

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Post by Ralph » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:13 pm

The only "Hi, Ralph" thread that comes to mind launched a chain of "hi" posts from one person to another.
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Post by John Bleau » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:26 pm

Jack, I rarely participated in Evo-Cre threads. Memorable was the Singing Sopranos thread in which hilarious anecdotes about sopranos were traded. The territorial threads (Ionia, Unionia, Bachanalia) were breeding grounds for flame wars the likes of which we just don't see anymore. There was tremendous creativeness in some of the flames. The great Elliot Morgan was quite a force in that department.

We don't see Lynn Sislo anymore, with her Oklahoman barnyard bromides. She was obviously the most intelligent of all posters: she left, she says, because she always knew exactly what each of would say.

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Post by jack stowaway » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:27 pm

Yes, the thread started out that way, but then digressed into other topics--before your return 'hi' closed the deal.

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Post by Brendan » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:31 pm

I cannot recall ever repeating the same arguments for weeks on end. If I'm not getting through, I try to walk away. I can recall having a long stoush over biblical literalism with ?Nan? and Rob Anteki at the end of CI when no one much cared anymore.

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Post by Barry » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:36 pm

Brendan wrote:I cannot recall ever repeating the same arguments for weeks on end. If I'm not getting through, I try to walk away. I can recall having a long stoush over biblical literalism with ?Nan? and Rob Anteki at the end of CI when no one much cared anymore.
It may have been Kevin then. I wasn't sure which one of you it was.
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"Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed." - Winston Churchill

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http://www.davidstuff.com/political/wmdquotes.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pbp0hur ... re=related

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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:52 pm

Nigel's Ach thread was wonderful. I usually don't recall bad blood threads, but the funny ones stay with me.
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Post by Gregory Kleyn » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:03 pm

jack stowaway wrote:CI had some wonderful flame wars.
Unfortunately forbidden here given the great creativity, wit, and eloquence these matches could generate (and the real players knew how to redeem even the vulgar with artistry).

It's nothing but all smileys in this locale.
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Post by Werner » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:16 am

Corlyss, you've said it. The ACH thread was tops.
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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:27 am

Gregory Kleyn wrote:
jack stowaway wrote:CI had some wonderful flame wars.
Unfortunately forbidden here given the great creativity, wit, and eloquence these matches could generate (and the real players knew how to redeem even the vulgar with artistry).

It's nothing but all smileys in this locale.
One wishes you would tire of CMG entirely and abandon any effort to reform us.
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Post by Brendan » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:59 pm

OK, someone's going to have to mention that damn gorilla in the room. I'll mention one word, one that produced some very positive and silly posts as well as some premium invective, particularly from "Mr Mouse" as I recall.

Ionia.

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Post by Gregory Kleyn » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:36 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:
Gregory Kleyn wrote:
jack stowaway wrote:CI had some wonderful flame wars.
Unfortunately forbidden here given the great creativity, wit, and eloquence these matches could generate (and the real players knew how to redeem even the vulgar with artistry).

It's nothing but all smileys in this locale.
One wishes you would tire of CMG entirely and abandon any effort to reform us.
I enjoy it here for different reasons, - but has there EVER been a memorable CMG thread?

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Post by Ted » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:41 pm

Speaking rather egotistically, there was my very own
“Economy of Words Threads 1-4 and
“Who Annoys You The Most Here”
But of course I am too humble to bring those up

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Post by Werner » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:50 pm

Gregory, if what you call creativity, wit, and eloquence is what comes out of the characters taking part in the flame threads you seem to like, I'm perfectly happy that such lapses of civility no longer find a welcome here.

I find most of the threads here perfectly satisfactory. If you dosagree, that's your privilege, and you are free to act accordingly.
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Post by Gregory Kleyn » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:57 pm

Werner wrote:Gregory, if what you call creativity, wit, and eloquence is what comes out of the characters taking part in the flame threads you seem to like, I'm perfectly happy that such lapses of civility no longer find a welcome here.

I find most of the threads here perfectly satisfactory. If you dosagree, that's your privilege, and you are free to act accordingly.
I remember when the (admittedly deranged) Mark B. Anstendig rubbed Donald and yourself semewhat coarsely in responding to a few recordings you had provided him, something of your very own flaming tendencies rather startlingly emerged by reaction.

It was darn enjoyable (while it lasted) cause it showed you "in the round" so much better than ever before.

Hey, - a memorable CMG thread.

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Post by Werner » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:12 am

I'm inclined to comment on your remarks re MA - but at this time I can't seem to come up with anything sufficiently concise and appropriate. If I do later, I'll let you know.

Actually, I can think of one work to fit him - disgraceful - or to put it another way - I don't miss him.

Make of it what you will.
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Post by Gregory Kleyn » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:24 am

Werner wrote:I'm inclined to comment on your remarks re MA - but at this time I can't seem to come up with anything sufficiently concise and appropriate. If I do later, I'll let you know.
Nonetheless, - you flamed, Werner.

It's in the archives.


Even Ralph flamed a poor young man here once ("Twelve-Tone" as I recall). Scorched him right off the forum when Twelve-Tone deigned rather overzealously to quote a few too many bible verses in the damning of Ralph's overtly "sinful" and skeptical character. I was shocked.

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Post by Holden Fourth » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:47 am

The most memorable thread for me was in the CI days and was called "Romeo and Joliet" For those who were there I'm sure you will instantly recall it.

For those who weren't, the idea was simple. You took a well known classical work and slightly rearranged the words to create something more peverse. One that instantly springs to mind was "Dildo and Anus". Some even went as far as writing a brief prologue to the piece. It spawned hundreds of posts and just as it seemed to be extinct, it would suddenly resurface. Another classic from this thread was "Madame Butterball" (about a fat soprano).

Anyone care to resurrect this idea?

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Post by Ralph » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:14 pm

Holden Fourth wrote:The most memorable thread for me was in the CI days and was called "Romeo and Joliet" For those who were there I'm sure you will instantly recall it.

For those who weren't, the idea was simple. You took a well known classical work and slightly rearranged the words to create something more peverse. One that instantly springs to mind was "Dildo and Anus". Some even went as far as writing a brief prologue to the piece. It spawned hundreds of posts and just as it seemed to be extinct, it would suddenly resurface. Another classic from this thread was "Madame Butterball" (about a fat soprano).

Anyone care to resurrect this idea?
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Post by Febnyc » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:03 pm

Thanks to Ralph and Holden for recalling that great (and very long) thread - "Romeo & Joliet"

So many clever additions came out.

Such as: Famous conductor who refuses to check his baggage - Herbert Von Carry-on.

And so forth.

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Post by RebLem » Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:13 pm

jack stowaway wrote:CI had some wonderful flame wars. And they jumped from thread to thread. There were definite 'camps' involved.

I remember the 'HvK' thread. If I recall correctly, the posters also dragged in Elisabeth Schwarzkopf et al.
The article on Elisabeth Schwarzkopf in Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians, 7th ed, ed by Nicolas Slonimsky says, in part, "On March 1, 1940, she was registered as a member of the German Nazi Party, under No. 7548960; membership was mandatory for artists employed by national theaters; she was cleared by the Allied Denazification Commission and was able to resume her career."

Karajan joined twice: Furtwangler never did. The only other conductor I know of who worked in Nazi Germany for whom Slonimsky never found a party number was Karl Bohm.
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