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In my town?

Post by Richard Mullany » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:18 am

Three men are being arraigned in court this morning charged with performing castration on demand. police received a tip and on raiding the place, a private residence, found grisly evidence of the practice, specimen jars containing pickled testicles and some entire penises.
The patients are being sought. The charge is performing an llegal operation and practiciing medicine without a license.
All this is taking place in this town, a rural outpost in the Great Smoky Mountains, and the sort of southern, Baptist, corn pone little town you would never associate with such goings on.
Has anyone else here ever heard of such a thing?. I mean, is there a demand for this kind of thing?.
I don't get around much anymore, I don't spend much time with TV, the nearest big town is Asheville, thirty miles away and I don't go there unless some medical emergency makes me so I am behind the times.
I'm as amazed by the fact somebody would want this surgery performed on himself as by the fact there is someone to do it. The surgeon, giving him a name he doesn't hold in fact, looks sinister but then to my mind anyone who would perform such a snip must be sinister. His helpers are a pair of Igor types out of a Frankenstein movie. I doubt they were particpating Blue Shield Blue Cross providers, at least there was not the familiar decal on the door. Perhaps they took Visa.
It was said that the clinic(?) advertised on the Internet. I have not Googled for it yet, I scarcely know where to start.
Does anyone here know if such things are, in fact illegal? I mean the surgery of course, obviously not any old bird can do it, but if a guy wants it done is it illegal and if so why?.
This town was in the news last year when the pastor of a Baptist church told the members that if they had voted for Kerry in the election that they would be expected to resign as members. A good part of the community agreed with his stance but later he quit when the group of members who had started the church said that if they left they would take the assets of the church with them. This caused a shift in the parsons supprt and that ended it.
This is a very bible belt town, many voices are speaking of the evils of the cities coming to our town unless we repent. The voices are far greater probably than the numbers of guys shopping for the surgery. We are already advised to keep an eye open for suspicious goings on. If you see a lot of cars parked next door that stay there for a few days and then are gone, well it has to be more than coincidence that Bob, your neighbor, is damned handy with a skinning knife and his visitors voice has changed....well you just can't never tell can you?
As the sheriff said, in his exact words, "This beats anything I ever saw".
And no, he was not holding up a specimen jar at the time.

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Post by Ralph » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:48 am

From The Seattle Times:


Castrations lead to arrests of 3 men

Three men have been arrested on charges of performing castrations on apparently willing participants in a sadomasochistic "dungeon" in a rural house, authorities said Friday.

Sheriff's investigators said Richard Sciara, 61, Danny Reeves, 49, and Michael Mendez, 60, admitted performing at least eight surgeries, including castrations and testicle replacements, on six consenting clients in the past year. None of the three is licensed to practice medicine, officials said.

The suspects, all residents of the house in Haywood County, in western North Carolina, where the surgeries were allegedly performed, were arrested Thursday. Each man faces 10 felony counts and eight misdemeanor counts of performing medical acts without a license.
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Post by BWV 1080 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:07 pm

Somehow Ralph, your Einstein tag line has never resonated more strongly with the content of the post above it

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Post by Ralph » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:19 pm

There is a recognized psychiatric illness in which people feel a towering need to have healthy limbs amputated and the desire never subsides or disappears. I can't begin to figure it out but this may be just a variation of that condition.
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Post by jbuck919 » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:58 pm

There was the man in Germany not far from here several years ago who advertised for someone to eat him alive, and found a taker.

The mass murderer Jeffrey Daumer once gave an interview in prison in which he said that the only reason he actually did what he had fantasized for many years was because he was under insufficient social control (my words, but that does sum it up) and felt free from daily scrutiny to let his darker side wander. In plain English, he was a miserable loner acting out a monstrous perversion. I have to imagine that it is normal socialization and frankly the supervision of peers that prevents many more cases like these extreme and bizarre ones, and one could cite many examples of perversions of a lesser order that are probably also held in check this way and have been throughout history.

Conversely, and I only ever read about this in the Glens Falls Post Star during my convalescences so don't know if it was national news, there was the millionaire who had gratuitously donated a kidney out of apparent altruism (to a stranger) and was being kept almost by force by his family from donating the other one.

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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:02 pm

I heard the story, but thought it was an April Fools story. I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing.
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Post by Richard Mullany » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:47 pm

Unless you live in a small insular town like this one is may be hard to imagine just how scandalous this story is. The town fathers are worried it may be the face the town is known by instead of what it is in fact; a very nice, stable, mostly pretty town in an extravagantly beautiful scenic spot with almost no serious crime, a wonderful place to live. We moved here twenty years ago after stopping overnight.
The fracas with the Baptists first with the streets taken up with TV reporters milling around and now this!.
Ralph, is it illegal to freely have ones naughty bits removed? It seems like a civil rights issue.

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Post by Ralph » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:06 pm

Richard Mullany wrote:Unless you live in a small insular town like this one is may be hard to imagine just how scandalous this story is. The town fathers are worried it may be the face the town is known by instead of what it is in fact; a very nice, stable, mostly pretty town in an extravagantly beautiful scenic spot with almost no serious crime, a wonderful place to live. We moved here twenty years ago after stopping overnight.
The fracas with the Baptists first with the streets taken up with TV reporters milling around and now this!.
Ralph, is it illegal to freely have ones naughty bits removed? It seems like a civil rights issue.
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An adult seeking such surgery for him/herself would not be committing a crime. A doctor performing it is another story. There isn't much case law on the subject. I suspect that with a psychiatric diagnosis recognizing the person's need to be castrated an otherwise competent, licensed surgeon would be unlikely to be prosecuted.
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Post by Gregory Kleyn » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:55 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:I heard the story, but thought it was an April Fools story. I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing.
And yet such a bizarre procedure as male circumcision is done thousands of times every day.

I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing as that (to their own children, no less).

That a few castrators would be run out of town when thousands of penis-mutilators practice their craft unhindered (and even admired), - I wonder what Ralph might call this pathology?

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Post by Ralph » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:39 pm

Gregory Kleyn wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:I heard the story, but thought it was an April Fools story. I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing.
And yet such a bizarre procedure as male circumcision is done thousands of times every day.

I can't imagine why anyone would do such a thing as that (to their own children, no less).

That a few castrators would be run out of town when thousands of penis-mutilators practice their craft unhindered (and even admired), - I wonder what Ralph might call this pathology?
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We didn't give a second thought about having my son circumcised. I simply accepted the belief it was a health and hygiene advantage. It was done by the OB/GYN who delivered him in the hospital. Today I might think twice.

The castrators aren't licensed to practice medicine. Circumcision is either performed by a doctor or in the case of the Jewish religion an exemption is made for the mohel, a man who performs that ritual. And that has led to controversy in this area where disease was transmitted by a Jewish circumciser through the bizarre custom of his sucking blood from the infant's penis.
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Post by John Bleau » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:39 pm

Ralph: apotemnophilia
You might also wish to look up "trepanning," which some people actually do to themselves deliberately.

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Post by Ralph » Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:31 am

John Bleau wrote:Ralph: apotemnophilia
You might also wish to look up "trepanning," which some people actually do to themselves deliberately.
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I know - they sell trepanning kits at the local Wal-Mart. Actually seems like fun. Personally, I prefer anthropohagy.

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Post by GK » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:52 am

Do give these Carolina guys credit for having the balls to do this.

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