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Post by Lilith » Tue May 02, 2006 3:25 pm

Study Shows Americans Sicker Than English By CARLA K. JOHNSON and MIKE STOBBE, Associated Press Writers

CHICAGO - White, middle-aged Americans — even those who are rich — are far less healthy than their peers in England, according to stunning new research that erases misconceptions and has experts scratching their heads.

Americans had higher rates of diabetes, heart disease, strokes, lung disease and cancer — findings that held true no matter what income or education level.

Those dismal results are despite the fact that U.S. health care spending is double what England spends on each of its citizens.

"Everybody should be discussing it: Why isn't the richest country in the world the healthiest country in the world?" asks study co-author Dr. Michael Marmot, an epidemiologist at University College London in England.

The study, based on government statistics in both countries, adds context to the already-known fact that the United States spends more on health care than any other industrialized nation, yet trails in rankings of life expectancy.

The United States spends about $5,200 per person on health care while England spends about half that in adjusted dollars.

Even experts familiar with the weaknesses in the U.S. health system seemed stunned by the study's conclusions.

"I knew we were less healthy, but I didn't know the magnitude of the disparities," said Gerard Anderson, an expert in chronic disease and international health at Johns Hopkins University who had no role in the research.

Just why the United States fared so miserably wasn't clear. Answers ranging from too little exercise to too little money and too much stress were offered.

Even the U.S. obesity epidemic couldn't solve the mystery. The researchers crunched numbers to create a hypothetical statistical world in which the English had American lifestyle risk factors, including being as fat as Americans. In that model, Americans were still sicker.

Smoking rates are about the same on both sides of the pond. The English have a higher rate of heavy drinking.

Only non-Hispanic whites were included in the study to eliminate the influence of racial disparities. The researchers looked only at people ages 55 through 64, and the average age of the samples was the same.

Americans reported twice the rate of diabetes compared to the English, 12.5 percent versus 6 percent. For high blood pressure, it was 42 percent for Americans versus 34 percent for the English; cancer showed up in 9.5 percent of Americans compared to 5.5 percent of the English.

The upper crust in both countries was healthier than middle-class and low-income people in the same country. But richer Americans' health status resembled the health of the low-income English.

"It's something of a mystery," said Richard Suzman of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, which helped fund the study.

Health experts have known the U.S. population is less healthy than that of other industrialized nations, according to several important measurements, including life expectancy. The U.S. ranks behind about two dozen other countries, according to the World Health Organization.

Some have believed the United States has lagged because it is more ethnically diverse, said Suzman, who heads the National Institute on Aging's Behavioral and Social Research Program. "Minority health in general is worse than white health," he said.

But the new study showed that when minorities are removed from the equation, and adjustments are made to control for education and income, white people in England are still healthier than white people in the United States.

"As far as I know, this is the first study showing this," said Suzman. The study, supported by grants from government agencies in both countries, was published in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.

Other studies have measured the United States against other countries in terms of health care spending, use of medical care and availability of health care services. But this is the first to focus on prevalence of chronic conditions, said Anderson, the Johns Hopkins professor.

Differences in exercise might partly explain the gap, he suggested. One of the study's authors, Jim Smith, said the English exercise somewhat more than Americans. But physical activity differences won't fully explain the study's results, he added.

Marmot offered a different explanation for the gap: Americans' financial insecurity. Improvements in household income have eluded all but the top fifth of Americans since the mid-1970s. Meanwhile, the English saw their incomes improve, he said.

Robert Blendon, a professor of health policy at the Harvard School of Public Health who was not involved in the study, said the stress of striving for the American dream may account for Americans' lousy health.

"The opportunity to go both up and down the socioeconomic scale in America may create stress," Blendon said. Americans don't have a reliable government safety net like the English enjoy, Blendon said.

However, Britain's universal health-care system shouldn't get credit for better health, Marmot and Blendon agreed.

Both said it might explain better health for low-income citizens, but can't account for better health of Britain's more affluent residents.

Marmot cautioned against looking for explanations in the two countries' health-care systems.

"It's not just how we treat people when they get ill, but why they get ill in the first place," Marmot said.

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EDITOR'S NOTE: Carla K. Johnson reported from Chicago, and Mike Stobbe reported from Atlanta.

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Brendan

Post by Brendan » Tue May 02, 2006 4:56 pm

I'm not exactly a small man, but I should move to the USA where I am considered relatively slender. Seriously - if anecdotally - as a nation Americans are enormous. Riches may even have soemthing to do with it.

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Post by BWV 1080 » Tue May 02, 2006 4:59 pm

The opportunity to go both up and down the socioeconomic scale in America may create stress," Blendon said. Americans don't have a reliable government safety net like the English enjoy, Blendon said.
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Post by GK » Tue May 02, 2006 6:01 pm

I read about the report and two statements may explain most of the difference. Excessive drinking is greater in England. Obesity is greater in the U.S. :wink:

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Post by Ralph » Tue May 02, 2006 6:29 pm

A recent major British study reports that Marmelite may well be the reason for the comparatively better health picture in England as opposed to the U.S. It's almost impossible to obtain Marmelite here but if it were to be made easily available mortality and morbidity from major diseases would fall within a couple of years.
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Post by Brendan » Tue May 02, 2006 6:44 pm

Marmelite? Any relation to marmite (the poor man's vegemite)? http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/marmite.htm

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Post by Werner » Tue May 02, 2006 6:52 pm

I suspect that's what Ralph meant.
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Post by Brendan » Tue May 02, 2006 7:18 pm

So do I, but I got hits on Google for both "marmelite" and "marmite". Probably just American spelling.

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Post by Ralph » Tue May 02, 2006 9:28 pm

Brendan wrote:So do I, but I got hits on Google for both "marmelite" and "marmite". Probably just American spelling.
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Post by Brendan » Tue May 02, 2006 10:49 pm

Perhaps for northern hemisphere tastes. Vegemite rules Down Under.

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Post by jbuck919 » Wed May 03, 2006 3:53 am

I had asssumed Ralph meant marmelade. The Brits are famous for their confitures which cannot all be had abroad.

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Post by Agnes Selby » Wed May 03, 2006 4:23 am

Brendan wrote:Perhaps for northern hemisphere tastes. Vegemite rules Down Under.
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Yes! And we had to have vegemite sent to us while we lived in the
USA. Once when going through the customs in LA, the custom's officer
was sure the "black goo" was an explosive of some kind. No matter
how I pleaded and assured the man that my children could not
live without vegemite, the six jars were confiscated.

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Re: Vegemite

Post by jbuck919 » Wed May 03, 2006 12:43 pm

Agnes Selby wrote:
Brendan wrote:Perhaps for northern hemisphere tastes. Vegemite rules Down Under.
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Yes! And we had to have vegemite sent to us while we lived in the
USA. Once when going through the customs in LA, the custom's officer
was sure the "black goo" was an explosive of some kind. No matter
how I pleaded and assured the man that my children could not
live without vegemite, the six jars were confiscated.

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If he was old enough, he was probably confusing it with Vitameatavegamin and intended to consume it himself. :)

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Vegemite

Post by Agnes Selby » Wed May 03, 2006 4:24 pm

I suspected that he wanted the Vegemite for himself and his children.

Now there are "healthy little vegemites" (vegemite's slogan) growing up in America.

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Post by Brendan » Wed May 03, 2006 5:28 pm

What?!? They confiscated your vegemite? I can still recall, after all these years, getting a parcel from home when we were living in Texas and the sheer pleasure of vegemite on toast (and I can also recall my parents' ecstasy at the flavour of real tea) after two years without.

No Aussie kid should endure such pain and depravation again. Not having a US ambassador for some years, important trade and diplomatic relations are obviously suffering.

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Vegemite

Post by Agnes Selby » Wed May 03, 2006 5:40 pm

I have a vague recollection that soon after we returned home,
Olivia Newton-John opened a shop in LA where Australian goods
were being sold, including vegemite. I do not know if it still
exists. If it does, the ex-pats must be truly happy.

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Post by Brendan » Wed May 03, 2006 5:51 pm

The Koala Blue shop was my brother's deli when he lived in LA. The tide has turned, however, and these days I long for genuine Fritos (I can still sing the Frito Bandido song from memory) and Twinkies in Oz.

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Mars Bars

Post by Agnes Selby » Thu May 04, 2006 1:21 am

There were only two products my children longed for
while we lived in Philadelphia. Mars bars and vegemite.

Neither has touched Mars bars since they came home
but vegemite remains on the menu for all four grandchildren.

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Post by Corlyss_D » Thu May 04, 2006 1:25 am

Brendan wrote: (I can still sing the Frito Bandido song from memory)
I'm glad I don't, or I'd never get it out of my head. The Oscar Mayer wiener song is bad enough.
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Post by Brendan » Thu May 04, 2006 1:55 am

Corlyss,

That's just a red rag to a bull. Surely the line "Give me your corn chips and I'll be your friend . . ." must spark off a bad memory or two?

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Re: Vegemite

Post by Teresa B » Thu May 04, 2006 6:30 am

jbuck919 wrote:
Agnes Selby wrote:
Brendan wrote:Perhaps for northern hemisphere tastes. Vegemite rules Down Under.
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Yes! And we had to have vegemite sent to us while we lived in the
USA. Once when going through the customs in LA, the custom's officer
was sure the "black goo" was an explosive of some kind. No matter
how I pleaded and assured the man that my children could not
live without vegemite, the six jars were confiscated.

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If he was old enough, he was probably confusing it with Vitameatavegamin and intended to consume it himself. :)
:lol: Fascinating stuff! And I'm thinking at my age some Vitameatavegamin might be just the thing.

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