Speaking of Toilets....

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Speaking of Toilets....

Post by Gary » Sun May 07, 2006 3:33 am

This is a German toilet. Now, just how do they flush crap down that :?:

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Post by jbuck919 » Sun May 07, 2006 4:02 am

Gary wrote:This is a German toilet. Now, just how do they flush crap down that :?:

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Don't ask me. 8)

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Post by Ralph » Sun May 07, 2006 5:53 am

Metaphysically?
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Post by jbuck919 » Sun May 07, 2006 6:13 am

If you had alluded to the ludicrous situation whereby Germans don't have built-in closets, charge you for owning a television or radio, and make you supply your own kitchen sink (literally), I would have been right on your side. Not to mention that they have outlawed garbage disposals, which means no matter how careful you are you get an annual visit from roto-rooter. Oh, and every individual takes his turn sweeping the gutters in the street. (I have paid my way out of all that nonsense through a clause in my rent, BTW).

So don't think that I have gone native. But I have never had problems here with what Milan Kundera calls the lily-like flowering of the sewer.

Edit: They do windows and domestic building in general a lot better than we do. Not the electric though.

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Post by Corlyss_D » Sun May 07, 2006 11:40 pm

jbuck919 wrote:If you had alluded to the ludicrous situation whereby Germans don't have built-in closets
Most Europeans don't have closets. They have wardrobes because property taxes are levied on the basis of rooms in a house and a closet counts as a room, you know, so they can screw more money out of the taxpayer. It's a nutty system and may alone explain why so many want to emigrate to the US, where a room is a room and a closet is a closet and we tax income and property values.
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Post by Ralph » Mon May 08, 2006 9:23 am

Corlyss_D wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:If you had alluded to the ludicrous situation whereby Germans don't have built-in closets
Most Europeans don't have closets. They have wardrobes because property taxes are levied on the basis of rooms in a house and a closet counts as a room, you know, so they can screw more money out of the taxpayer. It's a nutty system and may alone explain why so many want to emigrate to the US, where a room is a room and a closet is a closet and we tax income and property values.
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One of my favorite taxes from Olden Tymes (from longparish.org.uk)

Window Tax
1696-1851

In 1696 in the reign of William III another form of taxation came into force this was known as the “Window Tax” and would last until 1851.

In 1696 there was a financial crisis created by a growing inflation caused by the many conflicts both in Ireland and on the continent. One of the forms of taxation created to help pay the debt was known as the “Window Tax”.

By 1700 reforms had taken place by slashing taxes, auditing the accounts showing irregularities, and finally the nine-year war had come to an end in 1697, but the “Window Tax” would stay for another fifty one years.

The tax would be paid on a house of more than six windows. Unfortunately none of these records appeared to have survived, one way for a person to by pass the tax was to brick up one or two windows over the stated six, even today on some of the older houses the bricked up windows are still there.

In 1792 houses with 7-9 windows had to pay a tax of 2 shillings, and those people with property containing 10-19 windows would pay a tax of4 shillings.

In 1825 the number of widows taxable went from six to eight windows. The Window Tax would be replaced in 1851 with a tax called House Duty.
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Post by Donald Isler » Mon May 08, 2006 10:47 am

I recall a story which I read some years ago about an Englishman who had a house with a shop attached to it. He had no further use for the shop, and didn't want to pay the taxes for it any longer so he had that part of the structure demolished. At which point his taxes were RAISED because he now lived in a detached house!
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Post by jbuck919 » Mon May 08, 2006 11:50 am

Donald Isler wrote:I recall a story which I read some years ago about an Englishman who had a house with a shop attached to it. He had no further use for the shop, and didn't want to pay the taxes for it any longer so he had that part of the structure demolished. At which point his taxes were RAISED because he now lived in a detached house!
Well, the US has the perfect nonsense that in areas without covenants and ordinances (yes, I got the right version of the word), people will sometimes keep their property looking wretched from the outside in the belief that this will keep their assessment down. I have seen this in my home hamlet of Stony Creek.

The problem is the concept of property tax to begin with. Why should you buy back your house over a period of time from the government? The most enlightened taxation policy would be to tax only individual income, and then fairly, progressively, and without loopholes. But no one seems interested in that and would rather put up with the inanities of multiple archaic taxes.

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Re: Speaking of Toilets....

Post by Jack Kelso » Tue May 09, 2006 3:09 am

Gary wrote:This is a German toilet. Now, just how do they flush crap down that :?:

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Pictured is the old German toilet, designed so that Germans could inspect their feces before flushing.

Today the designs are reversed, as the older toilets occasionally tended to splash up when flushed (very messy).

Most homes now have the designs reversed. Yet one still encounters an old one once in a while....

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Post by Gary » Tue May 09, 2006 3:24 am

Thanks for the info, Jack!

Considering the base of the toilet bowl is flat...toilet brush business must be very good in Germany I would imagine.
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Post by Jack Kelso » Tue May 09, 2006 3:50 am

You may be right, Gary. I'm just glad I don't work door-to-door as a toilet-brush salesman----demos included!

Remember the Fuller brush-men?

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Post by Gary » Tue May 09, 2006 3:58 am

Well, I couldn't find a photo of the newer design on Google.
Jack Kelso wrote:Remember the Fuller brush-men?
Nope, I'm afraid I've no idea who they were.
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Post by Jack Kelso » Tue May 09, 2006 4:22 am

Gary wrote:Well, I couldn't find a photo of the newer design on Google.
Jack Kelso wrote:Remember the Fuller brush-men?
Nope, I'm afraid I've no idea who they were.
Red Skelton starred in the 1946 movie "The Fuller Brush Man". It's a neat comedy about all the troubles door-to-door salesmen have.

Sort of like vacuum-cleaner salesmen.....both have since become the typical foot-in-the-door types. Oh, encyclopedia salesmen, too.

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Post by jbuck919 » Tue May 09, 2006 2:30 pm

Jack Kelso wrote:
Pictured is the old German toilet, designed so that Germans could inspect their feces before flushing.

Today the designs are reversed, as the older toilets occasionally tended to splash up when flushed (very messy).

Most homes now have the designs reversed. Yet one still encounters an old one once in a while....


Jack
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My "home" has toilet bowls entirely similar to American design (the tank is enclosed in the wall as is the German custom). However, at work the toilets really are literally the opposite of the design in the picture, meaning that if the object was originally to make the feces inspectable, it is now to make them invisible even before flushing. What Jack wrote may sound ludicrous but in fact at various times in the lives of most normal people it is fairly important to see what our feces look like. I didn't create this indelicacy, I merely report it.

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Post by Gary » Tue May 09, 2006 2:40 pm

Thanks for the report. :)
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Post by Gary » Tue May 09, 2006 2:50 pm

Jack Kelso wrote:Red Skelton starred in the 1946 movie "The Fuller Brush Man".
Oh, okay. The only movie that I've seen starring Red Skelton is Bathing Beauty.
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Post by jbuck919 » Tue May 09, 2006 3:07 pm

Gary wrote:
Jack Kelso wrote:Red Skelton starred in the 1946 movie "The Fuller Brush Man".
Oh, okay. The only movie that I've seen starring Red Skelton is Bathing Beauty.
You should see DuBarry Was a Lady, in which he co-stars with Lucille Ball, who reprises the Ethel Merman role from Broadway. Believe it or not, that is the musical in which Cole Porter's "Friendship" was featured. You may remember that later on Lucy used it to great comic effect in an episode of "I Love Lucy."

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Post by Gary » Tue May 09, 2006 3:15 pm

Thanks, I'll check that out too.
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