Anti-Immigration sentiment higher in non-immigrant states
Anti-Immigration sentiment higher in non-immigrant states
"people who rarely see an immigrant can easily scapegoat them for everything wrong in the world"
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Good article by Arnold Kling:
Survey USA ran a neat survey about immigration late last year. They asked people in all 50 states:
Which of these 2 statements do you agree with more:
One: Immigrants take jobs away from Americans.
Two: Immigrants do jobs that Americans don't want.
One of the main findings took me off guard. I naturally assumed that states with a lot of immigrants would be anti-immigrant. After all, whenever I visit L.A., the complaints about immigration never stop. But it looks like I'm smack in the middle of a biased sample of elderly Angelenos. On average, high-immigration states like California are unusually PRO-immigrant.
To get a little more quantitative, let us define the Immigration Optimism Score to equal the % who gave answer #2 minus the % who gave answer #1. Then regress this Optimism Score on Immigrants as a % of the Population. The result: An extra percentage-point of immigrants increases the Immigration Optimism Score by 1.7 points. That's a lot, and you don't need fancy statistics to see it:
Table 1: Immigration Optimism Score as f(Immigrants/Population)
The simplest interpretation of this result is that people who rarely see an immigrant can easily scapegoat them for everything wrong in the world. Personal experience doesn't get in the way of fantasy. But people who actually see immigrants have trouble escaping the fact that immigrants do hard, dirty jobs that few Americans want - at a realistic wage, anyway.
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http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/200 ... n_see.html
Good article by Arnold Kling:
Survey USA ran a neat survey about immigration late last year. They asked people in all 50 states:
Which of these 2 statements do you agree with more:
One: Immigrants take jobs away from Americans.
Two: Immigrants do jobs that Americans don't want.
One of the main findings took me off guard. I naturally assumed that states with a lot of immigrants would be anti-immigrant. After all, whenever I visit L.A., the complaints about immigration never stop. But it looks like I'm smack in the middle of a biased sample of elderly Angelenos. On average, high-immigration states like California are unusually PRO-immigrant.
To get a little more quantitative, let us define the Immigration Optimism Score to equal the % who gave answer #2 minus the % who gave answer #1. Then regress this Optimism Score on Immigrants as a % of the Population. The result: An extra percentage-point of immigrants increases the Immigration Optimism Score by 1.7 points. That's a lot, and you don't need fancy statistics to see it:
Table 1: Immigration Optimism Score as f(Immigrants/Population)
The simplest interpretation of this result is that people who rarely see an immigrant can easily scapegoat them for everything wrong in the world. Personal experience doesn't get in the way of fantasy. But people who actually see immigrants have trouble escaping the fact that immigrants do hard, dirty jobs that few Americans want - at a realistic wage, anyway.
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To see what Americans think about immigration, legal and il, look at the comprehensive Pewsurvey. I certainly thought there was more support for legal immigration than there is. But in the main, Lilith is right that most Americans support legal immigration. What Steve's poll shows is confirmed by the Pew survey as well: familiarity mostly breeds acceptance. That is a hopeful sign. Now if the Latino activists and their clients could just return the favor . . .
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"If you do not want Mexicans coming here illegally to work, then give them a legal means to do so. None now exists, hence the current problem"
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No problem. Let them get in line with every other nationality. What makes them more worthy than people from other countries?
I'd rather see the Tyson Chickens and the Dunkin Donuts pay a living wage rather than let millions in here illegally. Yea, so my donut goes from 75 cents to 90 cents. Big deal.
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No problem. Let them get in line with every other nationality. What makes them more worthy than people from other countries?
I'd rather see the Tyson Chickens and the Dunkin Donuts pay a living wage rather than let millions in here illegally. Yea, so my donut goes from 75 cents to 90 cents. Big deal.
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Yes. Look at Table 17Lilith wrote:Anyhow, does anyone know a state that isn't overrun with illegal aliens?
Source: Statistical Abstract of the US.
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Mexico is on our border and we have long-standing cultural ties. There is no way to legally meet the demand here for Mexican labor - hence the black market we currently have.Lilith wrote:"If you do not want Mexicans coming here illegally to work, then give them a legal means to do so. None now exists, hence the current problem"
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No problem. Let them get in line with every other nationality. What makes them more worthy than people from other countries?
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Immigration is the hot button issue now that Iraq is no longer a problem. Many reactions are just that: responses to questions and polls without much insight or reflection.
This is a compolex issue. I certainly don't know what the answer is and neither does Bush.
This is a compolex issue. I certainly don't know what the answer is and neither does Bush.
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I'm not so sure. Look at that Pew survey. There's no lack of appreciation for the complexity of the issue. I think this issue has been simmering in the body politic at least since California imploded over Prop 187. That was a very big story. Since then, immigration has erupted into the headlines frequently, most prominently when 9/11 investigations publicized that 1) two of the hijackers came in from Canada and 2) that several of them had Vigrinia drivers licenses and the porous drivers' licensing system was exposed nationally for the weakness it is. Back in the early 90s the Feds and the state police busted a false documents ring involving employees of the Virginia DMV and Latinos at Baileys Crossroads DMV office. It was reported then that illegals came from all over the country with phony papers to get Virginia drivers' licenses because drivers' licenses could be shoe-horned into other proofs of legitimacy. Efforts to clean up the system then were stymied by Latino activists. Even after 9/11, when there was a real outcry against such chicanery, Latino activists were everywhere on the media telling the public and law-makers it was useless to attempt to prohibit licensing of illegals because the activists would take the jurisdictions to court for racial profiling, blatant racial discrimination, and violations of the 14th Amendment.Ralph wrote: Many reactions are just that: responses to questions and polls without much insight or reflection.
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*****Corlyss_D wrote:I'm not so sure. Look at that Pew survey. There's no lack of appreciation for the complexity of the issue. I think this issue has been simmering in the body politic at least since California imploded over Prop 187. That was a very big story. Since then, immigration has erupted into the headlines frequently, most prominently when 9/11 investigations publicized that 1) two of the hijackers came in from Canada and 2) that several of them had Vigrinia drivers licenses and the porous drivers' licensing system was exposed nationally for the weakness it is. Back in the early 90s the Feds and the state police busted a false documents ring involving employees of the Virginia DMV and Latinos at Baileys Crossroads DMV office. It was reported then that illegals came from all over the country with phony papers to get Virginia drivers' licenses because drivers' licenses could be shoe-horned into other proofs of legitimacy. Efforts to clean up the system then were stymied by Latino activists. Even after 9/11, when there was a real outcry against such chicanery, Latino activists were everywhere on the media telling the public and law-makers it was useless to attempt to prohibit licensing of illegals because the activists would take the jurisdictions to court for racial profiling, blatant racial discrimination, and violations of the 14th Amendment.Ralph wrote: Many reactions are just that: responses to questions and polls without much insight or reflection.
You give too much credence to activists who play the race/ethnic card. They've always been around and they usually accomplish little.
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I don't give enough credence to them. If it weren't for their activists, they would be virtually disarmed before American politicians. You should go explain your theory to Pete Wilson.Ralph wrote:You give too much credence to activists who play the race/ethnic card. They've always been around and they usually accomplish little.
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