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Bush Caves to Tantrum by Legislative Princes

Post by Corlyss_D » Thu May 25, 2006 5:51 pm

Bush orders Jefferson documents sealed

May. 25, 2006 at 5:15PM
UPI

U.S. President George W. Bush has ordered that documents confiscated from the office of Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., be sealed for 45 days.

In a White House statement, Bush said he issued the order to give the Department of Justice and lawmakers a chance to work out differences.

Bush's decision Thursday comes as members of Congress complained that the FBI search of Jefferson's office violated the governmental separation of powers.

House Speaker Dennis Hastert, D-Ill., and Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., issued a statement Thursday calling for the House counsel to talk with the Department of Justice on the procedures in such searches.

Federal agents entered Jefferson's House office Saturday night and took copies of computer files and documents as part of an investigation into alleged bribery. The items taken from the office will be given to Solicitor General Paul Clement until the issue is decided, Bush said.

Officials unsealed an affidavit this week that claimed Jefferson had been videotaped taking $100,000 in bribes. FBI agents allegedly found $90,000 in a freezer in Jefferson's Washington apartment.

Jefferson, whose district includes New Orleans, has denied any wrongdoing, refused to resign any House post and promised to seek re-election in November.

This is sooooooo typical of the post-Watergate Imperial Congress and the Cowardly Executive. Only the people can discipline the Imperial Congress and the Executive caves before the people ever get to consider the issue.
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Post by Corlyss_D » Thu May 25, 2006 6:09 pm

Bush: Seized documents to be sealed 45 days
President seeks to cool congressional anger over raid of Jefferson’s office
The Associated Press
Updated: 3:49 p.m. MT May 25, 2006

WASHINGTON - President Bush stepped into the Justice Department’s constitutional confrontation with Congress on Thursday and ordered that documents seized in an FBI raid on a lawmaker’s office be sealed for 45 days.

The president directed that no one involved in the investigation have access to the documents taken last weekend from the office of Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., and that they remain in the custody of the Justice Department’s solicitor general.

Bush’s move was described as an attempt to cool off a heated confrontation between his administration and leaders of House leaders of both parties, particularly Speaker Dennis Hastert.

Hastert and Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi said they were asking the House counsel to meet with the Justice Department to work out a resolution.

Bush’s order “gives us some time to step back and try to negotiate with the Department of Justice,” said Hastert.

The president said he recognized that Republican and Democratic leaders have “deeply held views” that the search violated the Constitution’s separation of powers principles. But he stopped short of saying he agreed with them, declaring the end goal was to provide materials relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation to prosecutors “in a manner that respects the interests of a coequal branch of government.”

“Our government has not faced such a dilemma in more than two centuries,” Bush said in a statement. “Yet after days of discussions, it is clear these differences will require more time to be worked out.”

Hastert, Pelosi respond
Hastert, R-Ill., and Pelosi, D-Calif., responded with their own statement: “Today, we are directing the House counsel to begin negotiations with the Department of Justice regarding the protocols and procedures to be followed in connection with evidence of criminal conduct that might exist in the offices of members.”

The FBI executed a search warrant to raid Jefferson’s office Saturday night as part of a bribery investigation against the congressman. Earlier, authorities said they had videotaped Jefferson last summer taking $100,000 in bribe money and that agents had found $90,000 of that cash stuffed in a freezer in his Washington apartment.

Two people have pleaded guilty to bribing Jefferson to promote a high tech business venture. Jefferson has not been charged and has denied wrongdoing.

The raid, which historians said was the first such search of a congressman’s Capitol quarters in the more than two centuries since the first Congress convened, set off loud complaints from both Republicans and Democrats that the executive branch was overstepping its authority.

Voter backlash feared
Other lawmakers warned that the constitutional confrontation could spark a voter backlash, if Congress was seen as protecting its own at all costs.

Bush urged the Justice Department and the House to continue discussions and to resolve the matter quickly.

“Those who violate the law — including a member of Congress — should and will be held to account,” the president said. “This investigation will go forward and justice will be served.”

The dispute had continued to escalate — raising concerns for Bush and his legislative agenda on Capitol Hill — when Hastert earlier Thursday accused the Justice Department of trying to intimidate him in retaliation for his criticism.

The speaker was responding to an ABC News report that quoted an unnamed law enforcement source as saying that he was “in the mix” of the department’s separate investigation into influence peddling by convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

“This is one of the leaks that come out to try to, you know, intimidate people,” Hastert said on Chicago’s WGN radio.

Later, he said, “All I’m saying is, here are the dots. People can connect any dots they want to.”

White House denies allegations
White House spokesman Tony Snow called the accusation “false, false, false.”

“They’re not leaking information to try to undermine the House speaker,” Snow said. “I got pretty categorical denials.”

“We are not going to dignify or speculate about the motives of anonymous sources providing inaccurate information,” said Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse.

The department issued its first denial of the ABC story minutes after it aired. The speaker demanded a retraction from ABC News, which stood by its story. Hastert threatened in a letter from his lawyers to sue the network and reporters and executives for libel and defamation.

ABC News defends
“Our response to the letter is our reporting on the story,” said ABC News Vice President Jeffrey Schneider.

ABC Correspondent Brian Ross stood by his report, saying he has checked with his sources who say the story accurately represents the facts “as they know them.”

“There’s enough there for them (the FBI) to take a look at the speaker” and other members of Congress, Ross said in an interview.

Hastert aimed his broadsides at the Justice Department amid a swirl of recriminations on Capitol Hill, including warnings by some lawmakers of a voter backlash against members of Congress “trying to protect their own.”

Dissension in Congress
Hastert’s aides, at the same time, were in talks with the White House about the possible transfer of material seized by the FBI during its raid, perhaps to the House ethics committee, according to several Republican officials.

The goals of any transfer, they said, would be to deny the documents both to prosecutors and to Jefferson, a Louisiana Democrat ensnared in a bribery investigation, until the legal issues surrounding the weekend search of his office are resolved. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the confidential nature of the discussions.

The confrontational approach by Hastert and Pelosi, the House Democratic leader, did not sit well with some colleagues.

“Criticizing the executive and judicial branches of our government for fully investigating a member of Congress suspected of criminal wrongdoing sends the wrong message and reflects poorly upon all of Congress,” Rep. Barbara Cubin, R-Wyo., said in a statement. “They should not expect their congressional offices to be treated as a safe haven.”

A GOP colleague, Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana, said the public “will come to one conclusion: that congressional leaders are trying to protect their own from valid investigations.”

While some lawmakers contended the executive branch overstepped its authority, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada has declined to condemn the search.

“I’m not going to beat up on the FBI,” said Reid, a frequent critic of the White House’s use of executive power.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

© 2006 MSNBC.com

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12973390/

I can tell you if the public had a chance to think about this story before Bush caved, the Congress' approval rating would have collapsed. If it had happened closer to the elections, incumbents would have been in serious trouble if they had not denounced Hastert and the other Princes for their attempt to obstruct justice with that "separation of powers" bull crap.
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Post by Lilith » Thu May 25, 2006 7:00 pm

Have you enjoyed your little rant Corlyss?

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Post by Corlyss_D » Thu May 25, 2006 7:56 pm

House Ldsp Talking Points
By: krempasky · Section: GOP

Since they're trying to keep everyone on the same page - figured it'd be good to share the page.

Separation of Powers
Talking Points

* This is not about Rep. Jefferson and his legal problems. The FBI has supposedly already found $90,000 in his freezer and that one of his staffers has pled guilty to accepting bribes. Even Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has called for his resignation.
* We are not coming to the defense of Rep. Jefferson. We are defending the separation of powers among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches of government.
* For the last 219 years, the Speech or Debate clause has been upheld by numerous courts.
* The Supreme Court has stated repeatedly and unequivocally that when the Speech or Debate privilege applies, it is "absolute."
* Further insisting that,

The guarantees of th[e Speech or Debate] Clause are vitally important to our system of government," [they must] be treated by the courts with the sensitivity that such important values require. - Helstoski v. Meanor, 442 U.S. 500, 506 (1979)

Oh please do read on... Print This Story
May 25th, 2006: 19:16:39

* The spirit of the Speech or Debate clause dates back to the English Civil War.
* Consider the precedent set by these actions.

Imagine if Americans were to give House and Senate committees information or "whistle-blow" on the activities of the executive branch. And what if the executive branch were able, based on the precedent set last weekend, to "search" these offices? They could have access to the identities of the whistle-blowers and all of the details of their charges. Of course, the Justice Department can still use its subpoena powers to get certain documents.

How can the Congress carry out its responsibilities to the American people to carry out oversight of an administration or investigations of wrongdoing on the part of administration officials at the highest levels?

* This did not happen with the Abscam scandal.
* This did not happen with the House Bank Scandal.
* This did not happen with the Teapot Dome Scandal.

Yet, justice was served in these cases without breaching the separation of powers.

In fact, it hasn't happened in the 219 years of public corruption investigations and prosecutions.

We will solve this constitutional problem by taking steps to preserve the ability of the Department of Justice to prosecute its case while enforcing compliance with the separation of powers required by the Constitution.

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, JUST AS NO BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT IS ABOVE THE CONSTITUTION.

And if that wasn't enough - they've provided a handy Q&A for interested parties.

Questions & Answers on FBI Search of Congressional Office

Question 1: Does the Constitution safeguard the independence of the legislative branch and, if so, how does it do that?

Yes. The Constitution safeguards the independence of the Legislative Branch in two ways. First, the Constitution divides and distributes the powers of the federal government among the three branches: article I sets forth the powers of the Legislative Branch; article II sets forth the powers of the Executive Branch; and article III sets forth the powers of the Judicial Branch. This "Separation of Powers" is fundamental to the structure of our government and was intended by the Founding Founders to protect Americans' liberty by ensuring that undue power would not be concentrated in any one branch of the government. Each branch is to operate independently, within its own sphere of power and responsibility.

Second, the independence of the Legislative Branch is safeguarded by the Speech or Debate Clause of the Constitution, article I, § 6, cl. 1, which provides that "for any Speech or Debate in either House, they [Senators and Representatives] shall not be questioned in any other Place." Because of the extraordinary abuses of the English Parliament by the English monarchy in the centuries preceding the American Revolution, the Founding Fathers were particularly concerned that the Legislative Branch of our government be able to operate freely, independently and without fear of intimidation by the Executive Branch. Accordingly, they included the Speech or Debate Clause in the Constitution to ensure that legislators could not be questioned about their legislative activities, or subjected to lawsuits or prosecutions for their legislative activities.

The independence of the Legislative Branch is vitally important to a free society because it checks the Executive Branch which possesses enormous powers such as the police and law enforcement powers, and control over the military. No branch of government can ignore the limits on its powers under the Constitution just because it thinks certain actions are a good idea or might be popular. For example, even if Congress thought that a law outlawing speech that praised the actions of terrorists were a good idea, it could not and should not pass such a law because the First Amendment protects the right of all Americans to freely express themselves. And even if the Executive Branch thinks that Congressman Jefferson is guilty of a crime and that it is a good idea to search his Congressional office, it cannot and must not do so unless the search can be conducted consistent with the Separation of Powers principle and Congressman Jefferson's Speech or Debate rights. Saturday night's raid on Congressman Jefferson's Congressional office was not even remotely consistent with the Separation of Powers principle and Congressman Jefferson's Speech or Debate rights.

Question 2: What has the Supreme Court said about the Speech or Debate Clause and the importance of legislative independence?

* A. The Supreme has explained that the purpose of the Speech of Debate Clause is

to insure that the legislative function the Constitution allocates to Congress may be performed independently.

[T]he "central role" of the Clause is to "prevent intimidation of legislators by the Executive and accountability before a possibly hostile judiciary." -- Eastland v. U.S. Serviceman's Fund, 421 U.S. 491, 502 (1975).

In the American governmental structure the clause serves the additional function of reinforcing the separation of powers so deliberately established by the Founders." --U.S. v. Johnson, 383 U.S. 169, 178 (1966).

* B. The Supreme Court has also explained the scope of the Speech or Debate Clause as extending to all activities that are

an integral part of the deliberative and communicative processes by which Members participate in committee and House proceedings with respect to the consideration and passage or rejection of proposed legislation or with respect to other matters which the Constitution places within the jurisdiction of either House.-- Eastland , 421 U.S. at 504.

* C. Finally, the Supreme Court has stated repeatedly and unequivocally that when the Speech or Debate privilege applies, it is "absolute," and the Court has insisted that

[because] the guarantees of th[e Speech or Debate] Clause are vitally important to our system of government," [they must] be treated by the courts with the sensitivity that such important values require. -- Helstoski v. Meanor, 442 U.S. 500, 506 (1979).

In short, the Supreme Court views the Speech or Debate Clause of the Constitution as a very, very big deal.

Question 3: Why is it so important that the Department of Justice return the documents it unlawfully seized?

The need for return of the documents has nothing to do with the Justice Department's case against Congressman Jefferson. Every Congressional Office contains certain Legislative Branch documents that are protected by the Constitution. This protection - as the Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized - is essential to guarantee the independence of the Legislative Branch. No matter how routine and non-controversial any individual Legislative Branch document might be, the principle of Separation of Powers, the independence of the Legislative Branch, and the protections afforded by the Speech or Debate Clause of the Constitution must be respected in order to prevent overreaching and abuse of power by the Executive Branch.

No one in Congress is saying that the Justice Department cannot or should not seek out information relevant to a criminal investigation. All Congress is saying is that the Justice Department must seek information in a manner consistent with the Speech or Debate privilege - just as prosecutors and law enforcement officers must seek information in a manner consistent with all the other constitutional freedoms to which Americans have a right, such as the First Amendment right to free speech, the Fourth Amendment right to be free from unlawful search and seizure, the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, and the Sixth Amendment right to an attorney.

Consider also Congress's constitutional obligation to conduct oversight of the Executive Branch. In the past, relevant Congressional committees have investigated, for example, misconduct in the Justice Department, including the Office of Public Integrity and the FBI. If the manner in which the Justice Department executed the search warrant were to set a precedent, then the Justice Department could execute search warrants on such Congressional committees and seize the documents that demonstrate their own misdeeds. This would seriously erode, if not effectively end, Congress's ability to conduct oversight of the Executive Branch, to the very great detriment of the American people.

Question 4: In the 219 years since the adoption of the Constitution, why has the Department of Justice never executed a search warrant on a congressional office before now?

That is a very good question, and a question best asked of the Department of Justice. Members of Congress, including the Speaker of the House and the House Democratic Leader, have questioned why after 219 years of successfully investigating and prosecuting public corruption cases without violating the Constitution, the Justice

Department now felt it was necessary to overturn 219 years of precedent and to violate the Constitution.

Question 5: How have the Congress and the Executive Branch worked out these sorts of issues in the past?

The Executive Branch routinely requests information from the Legislative Branch, in both civil and criminal matters, often through subpoenas. Congress also routinely requests information from the Executive Branch. Typically the two branches work hard to accommodate one another without raising Separation of Powers concerns and constitutional questions. The Justice Department, in particular, obviously and wisely has concluded in the past that it had sufficient tools in its law enforcement arsenal to successfully prosecute public corruption by Members of Congress without breaching the Separation of Powers principle or violating the Speech or Debate Clause.

Question 6: Did the Justice Department really exhaust all of its other options to get documents from Jefferson's office without resorting to a search warrant?

In the affidavit the FBI submitted to the judge in support of its application for the search warrant, the Justice Department claimed that it had exhausted all other means to get the documents before seeking the warrant. In the version of the affidavit the Justice Department released to the public, however, it redacted all of the information relating to its claim that it exhausted all other options. It is therefore difficult to determine whether the Justice Department's representations to the judge were accurate. However, Members of Congress are very, very skeptical that the Justice Department has, in fact, exhausted all other means. Indeed, the House knows the Justice Department failed to exhaust other options because no one in the Justice Department ever attempted to reach out to the House leadership in an effort to find some solution that would avoid a search warrant.

Question 7: Why was the FBI's search of Congressman Jefferson's office unconstitutional? Didn't the FBI claim to have implemented safeguards to prevent any violation of the legislative privilege?

The search of Congressman Jefferson's congressional office violated the Speech or Debate Clause because the FBI searched Congressman Jefferson's entire office (including his legislative materials) and seized many of his record (including all of his computer hard drives which contained legislative materials), all without the Congressman being present of having any opportunity to remove his privileged legislative materials.

The procedures set out in the search warrant did not even remotely cure the Speech or Debate Clause violation. Those procedures authorized the FBI to seize documents and computer files from Congressman Jefferson's office without any removal of legislative materials by the Congressman; permitted the so-called Filter Team to decide all by itself which documents are covered by the privilege and which are not (even though it is literally impossible for them to make that determination without being inside the Congressman's mind, knowing his motivations, and having a comprehensive knowledge of his legislative activities); authorized the Filter Team to immediately turn over to the investigators all documents the Filter Team concluded were not covered by the privilege; and, finally, provided for the Justice Department to take any documents the Filter Team had concluded might be privileged to court for judicial determination of privilege by the judge. In short, those "procedures" make a mockery of the Speech or Debate Clause privilege - an "absolute" privilege according to the Supreme Court of the United States -- for many reasons, but principally because provide no role for Congressman Jefferson determine in advance which of his documents he believes are covered by the privilege.

If this search is allowed to stand, then Separation of Powers and Legislative Branch independence will be very seriously eroded. The Legislative Branch would have little protection against Executive Branch officials willing to abuse their power and intimidate or retaliate against Congress and its Members. This, in return, would curtail Congress's ability to conduct the oversight of the Executive Branch mandated by the Constitution's system of checks and balances.

Whatever the circumstances, to assume that one branch of government will preserve the prerogatives of another branch is to assume that the safeguards put in place by our Founders are unnecessary. Consider for example if the FBI conducted a similar raid on a Member serving on the Judiciary Committee, and known or unbeknownst to the FBI, the Judiciary Committee was conducting an investigation involving a whistleblower within the FBI who was alleging corruption or misconduct within the FBI, and the Member whose office was being raided had in his or her office documentation related to this Congressional investigation of FBI corruption. While the FBI might have legitimate claim to other documents not protected by privilege in the Member's office, enabling the FBI to see the Congressional documents relating to the investigation of the FBI would obviously create grave harm. This illustrates the vital purpose served by the Separation of Powers principle and the Speech or Debate Clause of the Constitution.

Question 8: What was the timeline of the FBI search? Did the FBI make any effort to notify the House or its Office of General Counsel of the search warrant?

Although the Justice Department and the House Office of General Counsel have been in regular contact over the ten months the House has been aware of this investigation, the FBI entered Congressman Jefferson's office without any notice whatsoever to the Speaker of the House or the House Office of General Counsel. The FBI entered the office and spent 18 hours looking through and seizing documents, as well as imaging entire computer hard drives. Some of the material was very likely legislative and some of it was very likely outside the scope of the FBI's investigation.

The FBI arrived at the Rayburn House Office Building at approximately 6:20 pm on Saturday night, May 20, 2006, having given no prior warning that they had a search warrant to the House leadership, the U.S. Capitol Police, or the House Office of General Counsel. At approximately 6:43 pm FBI agents entered Congressman Jefferson's office, and they remained there until approximately 1:00 pm on Sunday afternoon. The FBI did not give the House or Congressman Jefferson an opportunity to go to court to challenge the application for the warrant or its procedures prior to the execution of the warrant, and did not allow House attorneys or Congressman Jefferson's attorneys to witness the search as required by Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

Question 9: Is this a smart battle for Congress to fight?

Perhaps not. Defending Constitutional principles - particularly those related to institutional balances of power - is often not politically expedient and often results in bad publicity. But it is vital for the House to defend the Constitutional principles of Separation of Powers and Legislative Branch independence, not for the benefit of the Members themselves, but for the benefit of Americans everywhere who value their freedoms. Americans of all political stripes should appreciate this. However, conservatives, perhaps even more than others, should understand and appreciate the importance of public officials putting principle ahead of politics and standing up for the Constitution against the prevailing political winds.
http://www.redstate.com/print/2006/5/25/191639/200

Of course, this argument is pure bull crap designed to change the subject. When o when are we going to get a President that will stand up these people?
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