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Air Passengers Held Hostage Once More

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:19 pm
by Corlyss_D
Air Passengers Held Hostage Once More

Come October, it might get difficult to fly to the U.S. from Europe, thanks to a court ruling in the EU last week.

It all stems from a lawsuit by the European Parliament challenging the European Commission's cooperation with U.S. rules requiring the names of every passenger on all inbound flights within 15 minutes of the flight's departure to the U.S. Washington had already made concessions to meet Europe's data-privacy rules. Never mind. The European Court of Justice blew up that agreement last week, ruling that the Commission had no legal basis for entering into it. Crowed one parliamentarian behind the lawsuit: "The response to 9/11 has been costly, both to the taxpayer and individual freedom. Today's judgment vindicates the four-year campaign to protect the privacy of airline passengers."

If you're tempted to see this as an emblem of European unseriousness about the Islamic terrorism problem hatching away in European cites, you'd be right. Michael Cashman, a British Labour delegate to the civil liberties committee, was less than circumspect about the grandstanding motives of his fellow members, telling the Times of London: "Although there are real concerns about privacy, it is being driven by anti-Americanism." This is the same European parliament, after all, that last month made a showy embrace of the French-invented International Day Against Homophobia, with its acronym IDAHO.

Bottom line: If you're thinking about Paris in the autumn, you may want to think twice about how you'll get home. Or whether you will.

-- Brian M. Carney

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:09 pm
by Ralph
This won't affect those of us fortunate enough to have private jets.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:50 pm
by Gary
Like this one?


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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:53 pm
by Ralph
Gary wrote:Like this one?


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I have a Gulfstream V.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:56 pm
by Gary
Is the Gulfstream V bigger and faster?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:19 pm
by Gary
So this is what a Gulfstream V looks like.


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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:29 am
by Ralph
Gary wrote:Is the Gulfstream V bigger and faster?
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Trump's plane is ostentatious - mine is sleek and as modern as they get.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:30 am
by Ralph
Gary wrote:So this is what a Gulfstream V looks like.


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Yes, I wish I knew how to post photos. Mine is white and red with a caricature of Dittersdorf on the tail.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:50 am
by BWV 1080
Ralph wrote:
Gary wrote:Like this one?


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I have a Gulfstream V.
Big deal, I just put in an order for my A380. Just having trouble deciding how big of a sauna I need for the upper deck

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 29,00.html

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:57 pm
by Ralph
You couldn't buy from an American company?

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:03 pm
by BWV 1080
Ralph wrote:You couldn't buy from an American company?
The 747 just does not cut it. Besides Dominique de Villepin's promised a 10% kickback

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:06 pm
by jbuck919
Ralph wrote:
Gary wrote:So this is what a Gulfstream V looks like.


[img]http://www.airport-technology.com/proje ... /PITTSFIEL

D-6.jpg[/img]
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Yes, I wish I knew how to post photos. Mine is white and red with a caricature of Dittersdorf on the tail.
You would caricature Dittersdorf? :shock:

I assume this alleged difficulty does not apply to US citizens returning. It's only three weeks away for me, you know.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:10 pm
by Ralph
jbuck919 wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Gary wrote:So this is what a Gulfstream V looks like.


[img]http://www.airport-technology.com/proje ... /PITTSFIEL

D-6.jpg[/img]
*****

Yes, I wish I knew how to post photos. Mine is white and red with a caricature of Dittersdorf on the tail.
You would caricature Dittersdorf? :shock:

I assume this alleged difficulty does not apply to US citizens returning. It's only three weeks away for me, you know.
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Why not? It's a neat cartoon and lots of people ask who he is at airports.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:43 pm
by Corlyss_D
Ralph wrote:Why not? It's a neat cartoon and lots of people ask who he is at airports.
I'm calling your bluff. Get Ted (nee Teddy) in here so I can explain to him how to load pics onto a site like Fotobucket and then how to link to them so they show up here.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:23 pm
by Ralph
Corlyss_D wrote:
Ralph wrote:Why not? It's a neat cartoon and lots of people ask who he is at airports.
I'm calling your bluff. Get Ted (nee Teddy) in here so I can explain to him how to load pics onto a site like Fotobucket and then how to link to them so they show up here.
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I don't think he slows down enough now to visit CMG. But I'll try.

And it's no bluff. I'd send the jet to Utah to bring you here for a visit but I have it tied up now, donating the aircraft and crew to Democratic candidates around the country.