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Arabs unable to reproduce successes in Gaza greenhouses

Post by Corlyss_D » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:54 pm

Reports in September said that immediately the Jews left, the Palestinians went in and stripped them of every portable thing that could be sold for cash money. I can't think why the Israelis would put themselves at such risk to help the Palestinians - no one should have to feel obliged to court death to help people, some of whom are trying to kill you, just to create good will among people whose capacity for good will is highly suspect. It's the frog and the scorpion fable all over again.

Thursday, December 22, 2005

FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU
Palestinians boot Jews,
now beg them for help
Arabs unable to reproduce successes in area greenhouses

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Posted: December 22, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein

The Palestinians who took over the Jewish greenhouses in the Gaza Strip when Israel withdrew its communities from the area now are asking expelled farmers for advice after reportedly failing to reproduce the region's famous insect-free vegetables, WND has learned.

Prior to Israel's August withdrawal, the residents of Gaza's Gush Katif slate of Jewish communities ran greenhouses known for producing high-quality insect-free vegetables. The Gush Katif gardens featured some of the most technologically advanced agricultural equipment and accounted for more than $100 million per year in exports to Europe. The greenhouses also supplied Israel with 75 percent of its own produce.

The hothouses were passed to the Palestinians in September in a $14 million deal brokered by former World Bank President James Wolfenson and several wealthy Jewish Americans.

Earlier this month, the Palestinians now running the greenhouses reportedly told the Israeli-Palestinian Economic Cooperation Fund they failed in their efforts to grow bug-free produce.

Now the Palestinian owners have asked the United States Agency for International Development, which has been involved in reconstruction efforts in Gaza, to hire former Jewish Gaza greenhouse owners as consultants for their declining vegetable businesses.

Eitan Hederi, a former Gaza farmer who represented Gush Katif residents in the Wolfenson greenhouse transfer told WND, "The Palestinians are privately turning to U.S. AID to hire us because we are experts in this kind of farming. It's a really complex process that we engineered."

Anita Tucker, an expelled Gaza resident and one of the pioneer farmers of Gush Katif, told WND, "I am not at all surprised the Palestinians are failing. When they worked in our greenhouses they needed to be monitored closely. Many didn't understand certain things, like not using different kinds of chemicals. Plus when we were in Gaza, our efforts were blessed by God."

Tucker explained she and other Katif farmers engineered agricultural technology specific to the dry, sandy Gaza conditions.

"We used different kinds of netting, also aluminum, since we knew the reflection of the sun kept bugs away," she said. "We used colors because we knew certain kinds of bugs were attracted to or kept away from different colors. We used certain organic insecticides for certain plants, and were very strict about which chemicals we used. We kept our greenhouses as clean as possible. And we also had our own proprietary inventions and technology."

Asked if she would serve as a consultant for the new Palestinian owners of her former greenhouses, Tucker said, "Probably not. We see the terror coming out of Gaza, coming out of the neighborhood I used to live in, and it's just horrible. Hamas has taken over different parts of Gush Katif and are firing rockets into Israel. I am not saying the Palestinian farmers are involved, but it seems they are not doing enough to stop the terror."

Haderi, who says he already has been asked by U.S. AID to consult on greenhouse technology, said, "I am still thinking about it. It's a very difficult decision."

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Jewish greenhouses in Gaza

Post by Scott in VT » Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:54 pm

Shame on the Israelis for not blowing up the greenhouses before they left!

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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:57 am

Scott in VT wrote:Shame on the Israelis for not blowing up the greenhouses before they left!
They wanted to leave the Palestinians something they could use to make real money, a going concern if you will, fully expecting the Palestinians not to be able to resist the urge to destroy it. If you ask me, the entire Gaza withdrawal was really intended to show that the Palestinians were incapable of self-governance and their "leadership" completely devoid of desire to better the lives of those over whom they have stewardship. This idiotic kabuki Bush has been going thru with Abbas has got to be street theater, i.e., more proof that they have no leadership worthy of the name. At some point we have to stop pouring money into that particular middle eastern sinkhole - it does no good for the Palestinians, it doesn't buy us any good will, and it just goes to prop up a regime even more corrupt than the UN.
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Jewish greenhouses in Gaza

Post by Scott in VT » Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:14 am

Amen, Corliss!

BTW, I'm a newcomer here, and having skimmed some of thes political posts, I delighted to find that you and I appear to share the same political perspectives. Ditto, Barry Z, and I'm not sure who else yet.

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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:12 pm

Scott in VT wrote:Amen, Corliss!

BTW, I'm a newcomer here, and having skimmed some of thes political posts, I delighted to find that you and I appear to share the same political perspectives. Ditto, Barry Z, and I'm not sure who else yet.
:lol: :lol:

Well, we have to huddle together here, you, Barry on foreign affairs, Pizza, Steve, David Ross, John H. (CharmNewton), Kevin, Cosima, Brendan, Ted and Ralph occasionally depending on the issue, Frank in NY, Frank in Mississippi, and me (I think I got everyone of our regulars conservatives). We are vastly outnumbered here.

Our collective condolences on having Dean as the face of Vermont. Allen must be rolling over in his grave. Welcome to the Pub. We're a bunch of hardballers here, so wear your mouth guard.
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Post by Scott in VT » Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:18 pm

Worse than Howard Dean, we've got Bernie Squanders, I mean, Sanders, the only "Independent" (read socialist) member of Congress. He's never met a problem than more government spending couldn't fix. He's like a wind-up doll, always squaking the same old mantra about 'corporate control' and 'working families.'

Oh, yes, he's quite popular here. He knows how to pander to the veteran's groups (normally a more conservative faction) with endless promises of pork.

Know what you mean about being outnumbered; I certainly am in this town (Brattleboro, VT).

Conservatives who love classical music? Aren't we all supposed to be listening to Dwight Yokum and Reba MacIntire?

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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:14 pm

Scott in VT wrote:Worse than Howard Dean, we've got Bernie Squanders,
Better get used to Senator Squanders. Too bad D'Amato isn't still in - Senator Pothole, Senator Squanders, and Senator Pork (Byrd).
He's never met a problem than more government spending couldn't fix. He's like a wind-up doll, always squaking the same old mantra about 'corporate control' and 'working families.'
You'll hear a lot of that here too, esp. when Dennis gets back from Chicago.
Know what you mean about being outnumbered; I certainly am in this town (Brattleboro, VT).
I moved to Utah from the People's Republic of Arlington, Va., with a very high ratio of government workers to regular folk.
Conservatives who love classical music? Aren't we all supposed to be listening to Dwight Yokum and Reba MacIntire?
Only if you live in a Red State. Conservatives in Blue States listen to whatever they want to distract them from the tragedy of their condition. 8)

I think I forgot to mention Haydnseek as a member of our stalwart band here.
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Post by jbuck919 » Mon Dec 26, 2005 4:21 pm

I'm conservative about a lot of things. I just never post about anything unless I know it's going to get Corlyss' goat. 8)

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Post by Corlyss_D » Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:23 pm

jbuck919 wrote:I'm conservative about a lot of things. I just never post about anything unless I know it's going to get Corlyss' goat. 8)
Where's the passing out emoticon?


Well, who knew???? :P
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Post by jbuck919 » Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:10 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:I'm conservative about a lot of things. I just never post about anything unless I know it's going to get Corlyss' goat. 8)
Where's the passing out emoticon?


Well, who knew???? :P
Actually, in foreign affairs I usually agree with you. Then sometimes you just know so much more than I that it is pointless to comment. I don't agree that Europe is about to become a suburb of Tehran, but I certainly do agree about the laughable situation being addressed in this thread. I don't even see that as a matter of conservative/liberal.

I'm sure you could cite some dithering on my part regarding Iraq. Well, I dither about Iraq. Finding it hard to come down on one side or the other is a legitimate thing if you don't have make the policy but only observe it. Working with kids whose fathers and mothers are deployed there doesn't help the situation.

Maybe I should make a point of saying so more often when I actually agree with you. :)

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Post by CharmNewton » Mon Dec 26, 2005 11:51 pm

jbuck919 wrote: ...I don't agree that Europe is about to become a suburb of Tehran, but I certainly do agree about the laughable situation being addressed in this thread.
If you haven't done so, perhaps you should give Pat Buchanan's Death of the West a read and imagine the potential long-term impacts on Western culture due to declining population rates among certain groups in Europe and other Western nations. Some truly frightening stuff here for future generations.

John

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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:30 am

jbuck919 wrote:Actually, in foreign affairs I usually agree with you. Then sometimes you just know so much more than I that it is pointless to comment.
:oops: Who knew! I thought you just weren't interested in the subject.
Finding it hard to come down on one side or the other is a legitimate thing if you don't have make the policy but only observe it. Working with kids whose fathers and mothers are deployed there doesn't help the situation.
I got the distinct impression that you thought Bush was an idiot, the war was the discredited product of an idiot, and we had no business being there. Who knew you were 'conflicted,' as they say in the thearpy biz? You never talk about anything you think is right about the Bush foreign policy. And you know how I get when you start pontificating out of your casual conviction that conservative ideas and principles are the product of 'stupid Americans behaving in ways Europeans are far too 'advanced' to behave in.'
Maybe I should make a point of saying so more often when I actually agree with you. :)
It would probably make me less inclined to think you are in permanent flight from reality, as liberals generally are. I guarantee nothing, but it might. :wink:
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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:39 am

CharmNewton wrote:If you haven't done so, perhaps you should give Pat Buchanan's Death of the West a read and imagine the potential long-term impacts on Western culture due to declining population rates among certain groups in Europe and other Western nations. Some truly frightening stuff here for future generations.

John
Pssst! John! I don't think Buchanan would be a good vehicle for John. He even gets my heckles up. Can we recommend someone less . . . . um . . . . controversial, shall we say? How about Tony Blankley's The West's Last Chance? Or Samuel Huntington's Who We Are?
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