Rudolf Serkin: Beethoven Opus 110

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Rudolf Serkin: Beethoven Opus 110

Post by gperkins151 » Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:32 pm

Have you heard both of Rudolf Serkin's Op. 110's?

One is from 1960 (part of the 3CD set), the other is from 1971 (part of the French 5CD set.)

I hear the 1960 is better and just wanted to get your opinions.
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Re: Rudolf Serkin: Beethoven Opus 110

Post by Lance » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:20 am

gperkins151 wrote:Have you heard both of Rudolf Serkin's Op. 110's?

One is from 1960 (part of the 3CD set), the other is from 1971 (part of the French 5CD set.)

I hear the 1960 is better and just wanted to get your opinions.
George:

I haven't heard either recording in a while. I'll check out both as soon as possible - give a listen - and report back. Serkin was one of the great ones in especially Beethoven and Schubert so it will be a pleasure to hear them again.
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Re: Rudolf Serkin: Beethoven Opus 110

Post by gperkins151 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:35 am

Lance wrote:
gperkins151 wrote:Have you heard both of Rudolf Serkin's Op. 110's?

One is from 1960 (part of the 3CD set), the other is from 1971 (part of the French 5CD set.)

I hear the 1960 is better and just wanted to get your opinions.
George:

I haven't heard either recording in a while. I'll check out both as soon as possible - give a listen - and report back. Serkin was one of the great ones in especially Beethoven and Schubert so it will be a pleasure to hear them again.
I appreciate that Lance.
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Post by val » Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:09 am

There is a 3rd version, with the Sonatas opus 109 and 111, one of the last recordings of Serkin.

The version of the opus 109 is superbe, but I wouldn't recommend the other two. Slow, they show the master too old.

For the opus 110, Schnabel, Backhaus, Solomon, Brendel (VOX), Annie Fischer an the sublime Friedrich Gulda are the best to me.

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Post by gperkins151 » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:39 pm

val wrote:There is a 3rd version, with the Sonatas opus 109 and 111, one of the last recordings of Serkin.

The version of the opus 109 is superbe, but I wouldn't recommend the other two. Slow, they show the master too old.

For the opus 110, Schnabel, Backhaus, Solomon, Brendel (VOX), Annie Fischer an the sublime Friedrich Gulda are the best to me.
Thanks Val. I didn't mention the DG because of poor reviews.

I finally heard the Serkin 1960 Op. 110. Its incredible, with a powerful, authoritative second movement. The tenderness is there too, this surprised me a bit. I didn't know Serkin had it in him. :wink:

I rate it alongside my other two faves, Annie Fischer and Kempff (mono).
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Post by gperkins151 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:34 am

Heard the Op. 110 fro 1971 last night. My goodness, it can't hold a candle to the earlier version. It is much less refined and less emotionally involved. From a technical standpoint it isn't as strong as the 1960.

From the 4 other later performances I have compared to earlier ones, it seems that with Serkin, the earlier the recording, the better.
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Re: Rudolf Serkin: Beethoven Opus 110

Post by gperkins151 » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:52 pm

Lance wrote:
gperkins151 wrote:Have you heard both of Rudolf Serkin's Op. 110's?

One is from 1960 (part of the 3CD set), the other is from 1971 (part of the French 5CD set.)

I hear the 1960 is better and just wanted to get your opinions.
George:

I haven't heard either recording in a while. I'll check out both as soon as possible - give a listen - and report back. Serkin was one of the great ones in especially Beethoven and Schubert so it will be a pleasure to hear them again.
Lance, did you get the Serkin 2CD set of Beethoven sonatas on Music and Arts? If you didn't, be warned, the sound leaves a lot to be desired. The piano sound is artificial and the recordings are overfiltered IMO. On top of that, the first three tracks (moonlight) have an intermittent high-pitched noise throughout. Its possible that mine is defective, so I'd appreciate any comments from others who own this one.

EDIT: Mine is not defective, as I have confirmed the same issue with two other sources.
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Re: Rudolf Serkin: Beethoven Opus 110

Post by gperkins151 » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:22 pm

Lance wrote:
gperkins151 wrote:Have you heard both of Rudolf Serkin's Op. 110's?

One is from 1960 (part of the 3CD set), the other is from 1971 (part of the French 5CD set.)

I hear the 1960 is better and just wanted to get your opinions.
George:

I haven't heard either recording in a while. I'll check out both as soon as possible - give a listen - and report back. Serkin was one of the great ones in especially Beethoven and Schubert so it will be a pleasure to hear them again.
Hey Lance?
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