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I Hope He Does It

Post by Barry » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:28 pm

He doesn't deserve the crap he's taking from the left wing of the Democratic party. Winning as an independent would be a nice middle finger in their direction:

Lieberman weighing run as independent B
6/14/06

HARTFORD, Conn. - Democratic Sen. Joe Lieberman, warily watching his primary challenger advance in the polls, must soon decide whether to start collecting signatures for a possible independent bid this November.

Lieberman's campaign contends that it's focused only on winning the Aug. 8 primary, but the Democrat has not ruled out petitioning his way onto the November ballot as part of a backup plan to secure a fourth term in the Senate.

"I am not going to close out any options," the senator recently told reporters.

Lieberman has until Aug. 9 — the day after the Democratic primary — to collect 7,500 signatures from registered voters to gain a spot on the ballot as an unaffiliated candidate.

But any effort to gather signatures before the primary would be a sign of weakness, indicating that Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential nominee in 2000, fears that he could lose to businessman Ned Lamont. The effort also would rile Democrats who already question Lieberman's party loyalty and his perceived closeness to President Bush.

The senator has been a strong backer of the Iraq war.

Christopher Kukk, an associate political science professor at Western Connecticut State University, said it's a risk Lieberman may be willing to take as Lamont continues to make gains in the polls.

"I think he'll alienate Democratic voters, but to be honest with you, I think he already has alienated Democratic voters," Kukk said. "If Lamont is gaining ... I think you'll see Lieberman jump."

According to a recent Quinnipiac University Poll, 57 percent of registered Democrats in Connecticut said they would vote for Lieberman, compared to 32 percent for Lamont. A month ago, Lieberman drew 65 percent to Lamont's 19 percent.

The poll found that if Lieberman runs as an independent, he would win with 56 percent of the vote, compared to 18 percent for Lamont and 8 percent for Republican Alan Schlesinger. Lieberman enjoys higher ratings among Republicans and unaffiliated voters than Democrats, the poll found. Unaffiliated voters are the state's largest bloc of voters, followed by Democrats and then Republicans.

Lamont, a multimillionaire owner of a cable television company, launched an ad campaign this week asking for Lieberman's support should he win the primary, and promising to back Lieberman should the senator prevail.

"What do you say, Senator?" Lamont asks in the radio ad. "May the best Democrat win."

Lamont's campaign manager, Tom Swan, said Democrats want to know what Lieberman will do.

"If Joe Lieberman is considering abandoning the Democratic Party, the people have a right to know it," Swan said. "Ned is agreeing to abide by the process and respect the choice of the people. Will Joe?"

No matter what Lieberman does, Kukk said he believes the veteran senator will win re-election. Lieberman still enjoys a strong lead over Lamont, and Kukk said if Lieberman runs as an unaffiliated candidate, it likely won't hurt him with the general electorate because party loyalty isn't very strong anymore.

"I think they are thinking of it," Kukk said of a possible Lieberman independent run. "If you're looking for your political survival, you'd be silly not to."
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Post by Corlyss_D » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:33 pm

Well, I think it's important for him to stay in the Senate, but geeezzz. Another Democrat forced out of the party because of what the party has become.
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Post by Lilith » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:46 pm

I guess Corlyss & Barry do not think issues of war & peace and life & death are very important. Lieberman has supported an unpopular and and, thus far, unsuccessful war for many years. I'm glad he's being opposed and he should pay a political price for it.

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Post by Corlyss_D » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:53 pm

Lilith wrote:I guess Corlyss & Barry do not think issues of war & peace and life & death are very important. Lieberman has supported an unpopular and and, thus far, unsuccessful war for many years. I'm glad he's being opposed and he should pay a political price for it.
The Democrats will most certainly continue to pay the political price for misunderstanding the public mood for decades to come. Joe Lieberman and Jane Harman are the only credible things they have to hang their national security hats on, and they are throwing both of them over the side.
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Post by RebLem » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:04 pm

Oh, I just love it when Republicans show all this tender concern for the welfare of the Democratic Party and try to tell us what the Party agenda shoud be, i.e., a carbon copy, beg your pardon, photocopy, got to be up to date here, of the Republican Party agenda.

The fact is that Lieberman's biggest contributors are mostly large banks in NYC, many of them foreign banks. He is one of the prime reasons I support one of Jim Hightower's ideas for campaign financing reform. He says we should run campaigns like they run NASCAR. Every candidate should be required to campaign in a jump suit with the logos of his/her 50 largest campaign contributors sewn onto it.
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Post by Ralph » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:13 pm

Lieberman is from a state where the Iraq war has relatively little political support. It will be interesting to see how he handles his future.
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Post by Corlyss_D » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:38 pm

RebLem wrote:Oh, I just love it when Republicans show all this tender concern for the welfare of the Democratic Party and try to tell us what the Party agenda shoud be, i.e., a carbon copy, beg your pardon, photocopy, got to be up to date here, of the Republican Party agenda.
I opposed one-party rule when the Democrats were in charge. I oppose it now that the Republicans are in charge. The Republicans played lapdog a lot better than the Dems have, so we had what used to be called "a bipartisan consensus." I don't think one-party rule is good for the Republicans or country. I will be long dead in my grave before I give a rat's ass about saving the Democratic party for the Democratic party's sake. As I have said elsewhere, I think it is a criminal conspiracy masquerading as a political entity.
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