Happy Birthday, Paul McCartney

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Happy Birthday, Paul McCartney

Post by Madame » Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:22 am

Paul McCartney was born in Liverpool, England -- June 18, 1942

When I get older,
losing my hair,
many years from now.
Will you still be sending me a Valentine,
birthday greetings, bottle of wine?

If I've been out
till quarter to three,
would you lock the door?
Will you still need me,
will you still feed me,
when I'm sixty-four?

You'll be older too
And if you say the word
I could stay with you

I could be handy, mending a fuse,
when your lights are gone.
You can knit a sweater by the fireside.
Sunday morning go for a ride.

Doing the garden,
digging the weeds,
who could ask for more?
Will you still need me,
will you still feed me,
when I'm sixty-four?

Every summer we can rent a cottage in the isle of Wight
if it's not too dear.
Grandchildren on our knees
Vera, Chuck and Dave.

Send me a postcard,
drop me a line,
stating point of view.
Indicate precisely what you mean to say.
Yours sincerely wasting away.

Give me your answer,
fill in a form, -
mine for ever more.
Will you still need me,
will you still feed me
when I'm sixty-four

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Post by mourningstar » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:46 am

happy birthday..

I congrat him as an ex-beatle, not as a solist :lol:
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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:57 pm

Apparently he was only 16 when he wrote that little ditty. The clarinet is most endearing.
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Post by jbuck919 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:10 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:Apparently he was only 16 when he wrote that little ditty. The clarinet is most endearing.
Just like Schubert and Mendelssohn. His greatest masterpiece at the age of 16.

Just an observation on growing up: I was nine when the Beatles came to the US, which means McCartney was 22. That's an enormous difference. The difference between 51 and 64 is negligible.

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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:13 pm

jbuck919 wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:Apparently he was only 16 when he wrote that little ditty. The clarinet is most endearing.
Just like Schubert and Mendelssohn. His greatest masterpiece at the age of 16.

Just an observation on growing up: I was nine when the Beatles came to the US, which means McCartney was 22. That's an enormous difference. The difference between 51 and 64 is negligible.
Well, I looked reasonably decent at 51. By the time I got to 56, I was a wreck.
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Post by jbuck919 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:21 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:
jbuck919 wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:Apparently he was only 16 when he wrote that little ditty. The clarinet is most endearing.
Just like Schubert and Mendelssohn. His greatest masterpiece at the age of 16.

Just an observation on growing up: I was nine when the Beatles came to the US, which means McCartney was 22. That's an enormous difference. The difference between 51 and 64 is negligible.
Well, I looked reasonably decent at 51. By the time I got to 56, I was a wreck.
Well, the inevitable difference between male and female..... :)

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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:29 pm

jbuck919 wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:Well, I looked reasonably decent at 51. By the time I got to 56, I was a wreck.
Well, the inevitable difference between male and female..... :)
:P
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Post by Barry » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:50 pm

His solo material may not have been up to the level of his Beatles work in general (there are plenty of exceptions of course), but relative to most pop music, I'd say it was still pretty good. Ram, Band on the Run, one side of Wings at the Speed of Sound, Tug of War, Flowers in the Dirt and Off the Ground were all high quality pop albums.
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Post by jbuck919 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:11 pm

Barry Z wrote:His solo material may not have been up to the level of his Beatles work in general (there are plenty of exceptions of course), but relative to most pop music, I'd say it was still pretty good. Ram, Band on the Run, one side of Wings at the Speed of Sound, Tug of War, Flowers in the Dirt and Off the Ground were all high quality pop albums.
It's your money. :)

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Post by mourningstar » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:26 pm

If you want to hear Paul. Just listen to the beatles. they have enough songs to amuse you for a lifetime. :lol: .. "Here comes the sun" is my absolutley favourite
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Post by Barry » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:17 pm

mourningstar wrote:If you want to hear Paul. Just listen to the beatles. they have enough songs to amuse you for a lifetime. :lol: .. "Here comes the sun" is my absolutley favourite
That's like the old story I heard about Frank Sinatra saying, "Here's my saluate to Mrs. Lennon and McCartney," then launching into "Something."

I meant to include a half of Venus and Mars rather than Wings at the Speed of Sound on my list. Got the two titles confused.

Hey, the guy isn't Beethoven or Schubert, but unless you just want to dismiss rock-era pop music as totally inconsequential (which is anyone's right to do of course), he was one of the most brilliant song writers and gifted musicians within that genre. I've honestly never gotten around to buying some of those albums I mentioned on CD, instead settling for my old cassettes since I don't listen to much pop music now days. But when I do, Paul is one of the few I turn to. Part of the problem in comparing solo albums to what he did with the Beatles is that he only had to write about half of the songs on any given album in his Beatles days. He had to do it all for the solo albums. So he could afford to chuck the bad songs and only use the good ones when he had Lennon, and, to a lesser extent, Harrison, to pick up the slack.
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Post by Madame » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:10 am

jbuck919 wrote: Just an observation on growing up: I was nine when the Beatles came to the US, which means McCartney was 22. That's an enormous difference. The difference between 51 and 64 is negligible.
Several years ago I heard a DJ say on his show -- "I knew I was getting old when my daughter asked me if Paul McCartney had ever sung with any other groups before Wings"

Kinda knocked the wind out of me for a minute or so, too.

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Post by Madame » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:19 am

Corlyss_D wrote:

Well, I looked reasonably decent at 51. By the time I got to 56, I was a wreck.
So, imagine what my 64 years have done to me :)

I wouldn't mind looking as good as Paul does at the same age; I don't think I'd like any of the angst he must be feeling now.

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Post by jbuck919 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:40 am

Madame wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:

Well, I looked reasonably decent at 51. By the time I got to 56, I was a wreck.
So, imagine what my 64 years have done to me :)

I wouldn't mind looking as good as Paul does at the same age; I don't think I'd like any of the angst he must be feeling now.
I hope I am considerably past 64 before I start feeling angst. My parents, whom I am lucky still to have, are still great role models for me.

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Post by Madame » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:02 am

Barry Z wrote:

Hey, the guy isn't Beethoven or Schubert, but unless you just want to dismiss rock-era pop music as totally inconsequential (which is anyone's right to do of course), he was one of the most brilliant song writers and gifted musicians within that genre. I've honestly never gotten around to buying some of those albums I mentioned on CD, instead settling for my old cassettes since I don't listen to much pop music now days. But when I do, Paul is one of the few I turn to. Part of the problem in comparing solo albums to what he did with the Beatles is that he only had to write about half of the songs on any given album in his Beatles days. He had to do it all for the solo albums. So he could afford to chuck the bad songs and only use the good ones when he had Lennon, and, to a lesser extent, Harrison, to pick up the slack.
I was about 10 years late coming to the party (and even 20 years for some of the other big names in rock-era pop), but when I started really listening to Beatles music (I don't mean stuff like "Help" and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand"), I never stopped! They've definitely stood the test of time, and when you get top vocalists covering their music years later, it's hard to dismiss them as a blip. Paul always stood out -- his looks, his song-writing, his relationship with his wife Linda (who was a hellava business partner, too!). But John was the original energy behind the group, the poet, the angry man, the eternal seeker -- and that is also in part what destroyed the group. But thank God for the years they were together.

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Post by Wallingford » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:45 pm

He's one of the master melodists of our age; McCartney's melodies have an effortless, soaring quality that just isn't there in Lennon's work. (Especially not in Lennon's early solo period, where he downplayed the purely musical aspects of his songs more and more).

Two tracks from the Beatle album Help! are a fine case in point: "The Night Before" and "Tell Me What You See." Neither of these songs are singled out for their exceptional qualities in most critical Beatle surveys; they're usually passed over or openly dismissed. But even these songs have a pleasurably tuneful feel that I never get in Lennon's "Ticket To Ride" or "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" (great as they both are). The McCartney tunes are still staples of oldies radio, too.
If I could tell my mom and dad
That the things we never had
Never mattered we were always ok
Getting ready for Christmas day
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Post by Wallingford » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:24 pm

Worth remembering, too, that it was McCartney's output--specifically, his BALLADS--that gave the Beatles an early foothold in their broad appeal; the McCartney ballads were the ones instantly adpoted by middle-of-the-road artists your mom and dad always preferred. It was these songs that became immediate STANDARDS.
If I could tell my mom and dad
That the things we never had
Never mattered we were always ok
Getting ready for Christmas day
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