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Deflating Ms. Rowley

Post by Corlyss_D » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:38 pm

Deflating Ms. Rowley

The Justice Department issued a report this week that may put the final coup de grâce on Minnesota Democrat Colleen Rowley's congressional hopes.

A lawyer and FBI agent, Ms. Rowley gained national fame after the Sept. 11 because she had sought permission to search Zacarias Moussaoui's laptop before the deadly attacks were carried out. Had FBI headquarters allowed the search, the plot might have been stopped.

Her loud criticisms of FBI headquarters led Time Magazine to name her Woman of the Year in 2002. But now it turns out that Ms. Rowley deserves some of the blame along with Washington bureaucrats. Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine, in a report two years ago that now has been declassified, concludes that she made a critical mistake by rushing to open an "intelligence" investigation and seeking a warrant under the Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act. Ms. Rowley could have sought a criminal warrant but unwisely chose to pursue an espionage warrant "without fully understanding the requirements of FISA and the difficulty of connecting Moussaoui to a recognized foreign power," the report said. Had she been more savvy, it's likely Moussaoui's hard drive would have been searched in time to stop the attacks.

Ms. Rowley has been staking her campaign to unseat Republican Rep. John Kline (a career Marine turned politician) on her credentials to more effectively prosecute the war on terror. She's come out strongly against the Iraq war and has argued that rather than fighting to spread democracy in the Middle East, the Bush administration would be more effective against al Qaeda if it beefed up law enforcement agencies to run down terrorists across the globe.

But Ms. Rowley has proved to be an unimpressive political force. She's run an unpolished campaign that resorted to showing Mr. Kline as Col. Klink, a Nazi character from the TV show "Hogan's Heroes," on her Web site. She's had trouble raising money. At the end of the first quarter of this year, she had pulled in only $98,000 while Mr. Kline had raised nearly $200,000 and has some $550,000 on hand. Now her vaunted status as whistleblower may be in jeopardy. Ms. Rowley is rapidly becoming just another antiwar candidate, and not one very adept at the business of politics. -- Brendan Miniter
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Post by Ralph » Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:14 am

So she'll lose.
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Post by RebLem » Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:11 am

It is interesting that the wording of the early paragraphs of the article would lead one to believe that some sort of perfidy on Ms. Rowley's part had been unmasked. Reading further, we find it shows only that she is being accused of a bit of naivete, caused by inexperience and lack of knowledge of the intricacies of laws that legislators themselves typically don't read before they vote on them.

And isn't it convenient for the Bushies that this information was just declassified? Isn't that really fortuitous timing for BushCo? And what was so explosive about this information that it was classified in the first place?

Its obvious that the GOP Slime Machine is been shifted into overdrive. Will it succeed? Maybe. And if not, they always have the Diebold computer programmers as backup.
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Post by Corlyss_D » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:00 pm

RebLem wrote:we find it shows only that she is being accused of a bit of naivete, caused by inexperience and lack of knowledge of the intricacies of laws that legislators themselves typically don't read before they vote on them.
Yeah. But then she shouldn't make herself out to be such a hero when her own naivete prevented her from getting what she wanted, not the dunderheadedness of the FBI. They are dunderheaded enough without misrepresenting what HQ did.

And what was so explosive about this information that it was classified in the first place?
You got me. Stephen Hayes has been trying to get them to disgourge thousands of pages of intel found in Iraq that exonerate the administration's position in the run up to the war, among other things, but the administration's attitude now is "Old news. Who cares?" so the DoD sits on the info in defiance of the President's orders to release it. That information released yesterday about WMDs being found in Iraq in 2004 (proving once again just how successful and effective inspection regimes are and why we really really really need them for Iran and North Korea :roll:) was part of the stash that Hayes has sued the government to release.
Its obvious that the GOP Slime Machine is been shifted into overdrive.


Hey. Quit your whining. Politics ain't beanbag.
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Post by RebLem » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:06 pm

Yessir, those inspection regimes are "long, hard slogs," to coin a phrase. Much easier to just bomb the crap out of everything and everybody.
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Post by Corlyss_D » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:03 pm

RebLem wrote: Much easier to just bomb the crap out of everything and everybody.
:D That's always been my preference. That's but one reason I didn't go into the Foreign Service.
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Post by RebLem » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:44 am

Many of us wish John Bolton had made the same choice.

Give him a Utah ranch and a cowboy hat, a horse and saddle, and darken his mustache a bit, and he'd be a ringer for Wilford Brimley.

Or maybe he could come here to New Mexico and work for Sam Donaldson. I hear Sam is looking for a new ranch manager.
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Post by Corlyss_D » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:21 am

RebLem wrote:Many of us wish John Bolton had made the same choice.
So what's your beef with him since he got to the UN, I mean now that that fool Voinovich has recanted his ignorant and exasperating vote against Bolton, which he never would have cast if he had been present at the hearing and if he had read the transcript or done anything to inform himself besides listen to the Democratic spin? Have you been following Bolton's efforts to bring accountability to that hopelessly corrupt institution (the UN, not the Senate)? Or don't you think we should bother with it, since it is so corrupt?

I'm ambivalent about it. I vassilate between "send it to Brussels or Geneva where it belongs and nobody will notice or care about its failures" and "dump it entirely." I think it will eventually be superseded by an organization of democracies whose entrance requirements will be modeled on those of the EU.
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Post by RebLem » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:39 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:
RebLem wrote:Many of us wish John Bolton had made the same choice.
I think it [the UN] will eventually be superseded by an organization of democracies whose entrance requirements will be modeled on those of the EU.

First of all, the EU would demand a lot of stuff that Pretzel Prez and the GOP would find unacceptable. Like ratifying a few environmental treaties so we don't arrogantly assume the right to crap in every one else's faces, and acceptance of the jurisdiction of the World Court. I doubt the US would be welcome in any new organization of real democracies. They might demand, for example, that we accept the same standards of verifiable accuracy in our election process that Bush had the chutzpah to demand of Ukraine, and as far as the GOP is concerned, that would put the kibosh on any such deal.

At the moment, I am afraid most of the EU sees us as only a little bit better than Turkey, and actually worse in some ways.
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Post by Corlyss_D » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:26 pm

RebLem wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:
RebLem wrote:Many of us wish John Bolton had made the same choice.
I think it [the UN] will eventually be superseded by an organization of democracies whose entrance requirements will be modeled on those of the EU.

First of all, the EU would demand a lot of stuff that Pretzel Prez and the GOP would find unacceptable. Like ratifying a few environmental treaties so we don't arrogantly assume the right to crap in every one else's faces, and acceptance of the jurisdiction of the World Court.
I said "modeled on" not "the same as."
They might demand, for example, that we accept the same standards of verifiable accuracy in our election process that Bush had the chutzpah to demand of Ukraine, and as far as the GOP is concerned, that would put the kibosh on any such deal.
More liberal baloney. It would be funny if it were irony and not what you really think.
At the moment, I am afraid most of the EU sees us as only a little bit better than Turkey, and actually worse in some ways.
Fortunately, we need the EU about as much as the EU needs Turkey.
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Post by RebLem » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:51 pm

So, Corlyss, what democracies are you talking about if not the democracies of the EU, that are going to join with us is this Brave New World Union of Democracies? As Lou Rukeyser used to say, "Do any of them have names?"
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Post by Corlyss_D » Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:25 pm

First of all, the EU would demand a lot of stuff that Pretzel Prez and the GOP would find unacceptable.
The EU is made up of nations that have other identities than EU members. The EU is principally an economic and trade entity. As an economic entity, we don't need the EU any more than the EU needs Turkey. The US is not seeking to join the EU as an economic and trade entity. However, the way in which the EU has dangled economic benefits before wannabes desireous of entry in order to produce liberalization of societies, encourage the development of the rule of law and tolerance for minorities, and transparency and accountability of governments, and even standardization of financial and banking activities, is a model worth emulating.

We should engineer the creation, with truly democratic nations (not those that call themselves the Democratic Republic of this or that but nations with transparent accountable governments, free-trade policies, capital friendly policies, rule of law, protection of minorities) - France might not count - of a political organization like the UN was intended to be: an exclusive club of democracies that would take it upon themselves to secure international peace and stability, by force of arms if and when necessary, and whose member nations would have to possess certain characteristics (see above) in order to belong. You don't get to be a member just by declaring yourself a nation, or just by showing up at HQ with papers. To belong, you have to earn it by having or developing those certain characteristics (see above).
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