Bush's Worst Nightmare: Dems Take the Senate Too

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Bush's Worst Nightmare: Dems Take the Senate Too

Post by Lilith » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:03 pm

Oh happy day!

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Post by Ted » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:14 pm

If there ever was a commander and chief who needs to be on a short leash it’s him.

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Post by Ralph » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:16 pm

Democrats in both houses can create a basis for a more solid majority in two years or...
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Post by Corlyss_D » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:46 am

Another difference, among many, between Dems and Reps: when Democrats lose close ones, they go to court; when Republicans lose close ones, they concede.
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Post by Kevin R » Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:02 am

That hurts. The Senate (because of the SC) needed to remain in control of the Reps. But there was some good news on election night:

AA in Michigan

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/11/08/michigan

Great news on property rights.

http://www.ncsl.org/statevote/prop_rights_06.htm
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Post by Holden Fourth » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:14 am

Corlyss_D wrote:Another difference, among many, between Dems and Reps: when Democrats lose close ones, they go to court; when Republicans lose close ones, they concede.
Come again - Florida 2000?

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Post by Barry » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:27 am

Holden Fourth wrote:
Corlyss_D wrote:Another difference, among many, between Dems and Reps: when Democrats lose close ones, they go to court; when Republicans lose close ones, they concede.
Come again - Florida 2000?
I'm not taking a position here.......just explaining:

That was Corlyss' point. Gore, a Democrat, was behind after the initial vote count in Florida in 2000, but extended the contest for a month with requests for recounts. Allen, a Republican, is in a similar position in Virginia but is conceding, rather than asking for a recount to draw this out longer.
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Post by Madame » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:44 am

Any thoughts on whether Harry Reid will be a shoo-in for Senate Majority Leader?

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Post by Ted » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:52 am

Barry wrote:
'm not taking a position here.......just explaining:
So you’re Corlyss’s press secretary now eh Barry
”Have you no shame Mr Z” :wink:

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Post by Barry » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:05 pm

Ted wrote:Barry wrote:
'm not taking a position here.......just explaining:
So you’re Corlyss’s press secretary now eh Barry
”Have you no shame Mr Z” :wink:
Only ocassionally 8) .
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Post by karlhenning » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:20 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:Another difference, among many, between Dems and Reps: when Democrats lose close ones, they go to court; when Republicans lose close ones, they concede.
Corlyss dear, I don't think you quite got the message from the electorate this November: shrilly demonizing The Other Guy got old, long ago.

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Post by Lilith » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:30 pm

"That was Corlyss' point. Gore, a Democrat, was behind after the initial vote count in Florida in 2000, but extended the contest for a month with requests for recounts. Allen, a Republican, is in a similar position in Virginia but is conceding, rather than asking for a recount to draw this out longer."

Thats because Virginia is mostly electronic and there is never a high changeover - Florida was completely different.

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Post by karlhenning » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:41 pm

There are other differences, though I forebear to speculate on whether Allen's behavior would be at all otherwise (I don't know, and I don't care), including: the margin in the initial count in Virginia is 13 times that of the Florida sliver of six years ago.

I see common sense, rather than any innate nobility or superiority of character over any Democrat as Corlyss fondly imagines here.

I also see that Allen has not in fact conceded yet.

And:
Michael D. Shear wrote:. . . several Republican sources said Allen received pressure from advisers and his GOP colleagues in Washington, who believed that little would be gained by doing so.
We'll never know what Allen's inclination might have been, absent these external pressures.

But of course, Corlyss's post was not a discussion of the issues, it did not (with all respect to Barry) have much of any point, apart from vilifying the political opposition.

The fact that vilifying the political opposition has been common behavior on TV and talk radio, does not make it any nobler an endeavor.

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Post by karlhenning » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:53 pm

And, unfortunately for those rose-hued lenses, our Corlyss seems to have missed this small, but (in light of this discussion) significant item:
Michael Shear wrote:[Allen] started the process of sending lawyers and operatives across Virginia yesterday.
Can someone explain to me the great attraction of contemning people who think otherwise than yourself? Because I'm not finding it.

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Post by Fugu » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:31 am

Gore had every reason to contest Florida. The ballot system there was horendous and needed to be revised then. We're post that situation and even that needs revision. However, the two situations are not alike at all. Suck on that!!

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Post by Wallingford » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:17 pm

Corlyss_D wrote:Another difference, among many, between Dems and Reps: when Democrats lose close ones, they go to court; when Republicans lose close ones, they concede.
Dunno, Corlyss.......here in Washington state, when fat-elephant-bastard Dino Rossi legally contested Dem Christine Gregoire in November '04, fighting her all the way to January's swearing-in of the poor gal, I'd say he & his kind PERFECTED the technique of litigation.

We Dems are merely taking lessons from THE MASTERS OF THE ART!!!! :lol:
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