Tim Blair posts some protester pictures from the G-20 meeting in Melbourne. Why is it that the anti-globalization and anti-capitalist folks are so weird? I loved the first guy and the couple in the last picture.
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog ... s_claimed/
Oddball protesters
Oddball protesters
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*****Kevin R wrote:Tim Blair posts some protester pictures from the G-20 meeting in Melbourne. Why is it that the anti-globalization and anti-capitalist folks are so weird? I loved the first guy and the couple in the last picture.
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog ... s_claimed/
The media loves oddball protesters. And there are always some.
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*****Lilith wrote:How quickly Kevin forgets his history lessons.
Remember the weirdos and hippies 40 years ago? They brought home 500,000 troops, thats all. That's pretty 'weird', isn't it.
No, they really didn't. That's a tinted, romanticized viewpoint, a very distorted one. Most Americans supported the Vietnam War during the period of intense protesting but as it became clear that we were mired in a true ciuvil war attitudes changed.
That's not to say that the protests - large and small - weren't important but they didn't decide the issue.
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How many times do I have to remind you that while you are often well intentioned your proclivity towards spouting gobbledygook, knee-jerk-left wing misinformation undermines your credibility.
Having said that, Ralph, you are understating the effect college students like me had in 1968-1972. We protested the war, burned our draft cards and yes…smoked funny cigarettes
Ya see LilithThat's a tinted, romanticized viewpoint, a very distorted one.
How many times do I have to remind you that while you are often well intentioned your proclivity towards spouting gobbledygook, knee-jerk-left wing misinformation undermines your credibility.
Having said that, Ralph, you are understating the effect college students like me had in 1968-1972. We protested the war, burned our draft cards and yes…smoked funny cigarettes
"Most Americans supported the Vietnam War during the period of intense protesting but as it became clear that we were mired in a true civil war attitudes changed. "
Who raised the issue of a true civil war in Vietnam? Those protesting, that's who.They were saying it from early on in the war.I think the protests had a major influence on US policy, as did the racial protests. If you deny that, you live in a fantasy world. The idea that everyone came around to concepts of logic and rationality after decades of illogic and irrationality puzzles me. Something else had to factor into that.
I don't think the majority of Americans ever believed that (that Vietnam was in a civil war) although I think it was true. You give far too much credit to rational thought. Why do I suspect you have never carried a picket sign?
Who raised the issue of a true civil war in Vietnam? Those protesting, that's who.They were saying it from early on in the war.I think the protests had a major influence on US policy, as did the racial protests. If you deny that, you live in a fantasy world. The idea that everyone came around to concepts of logic and rationality after decades of illogic and irrationality puzzles me. Something else had to factor into that.
I don't think the majority of Americans ever believed that (that Vietnam was in a civil war) although I think it was true. You give far too much credit to rational thought. Why do I suspect you have never carried a picket sign?
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*****Lilith wrote:"Most Americans supported the Vietnam War during the period of intense protesting but as it became clear that we were mired in a true civil war attitudes changed. "
Who raised the issue of a true civil war in Vietnam? Those protesting, that's who.They were saying it from early on in the war.I think the protests had a major influence on US policy, as did the racial protests. If you deny that, you live in a fantasy world. The idea that everyone came around to concepts of logic and rationality after decades of illogic and irrationality puzzles me. Something else had to factor into that.
I don't think the majority of Americans ever believed that (that Vietnam was in a civil war) although I think it was true. You give far too much credit to rational thought. Why do I suspect you have never carried a picket sign?
To answer your last question, because you frequently overgeneralize and suspect everything of everyone who doesn't see matters as you do:
I have carried many picket signs and taken part in numerous protests from my teen years on. I have protested racial discrimination and marched in support of abortion rights. I carried signs sometimes, other times just my body.
My views on Vietnam shifted from early enthusiastic support of the war, leading me to join the Army and give up a deferment, to disillusionment and belief that we were wrong. But, no, I did not join anti-Vietnam protests after leaving the Army because at that time it seemed impossible to be in a public antiwar protest that was not also anti-military, something I never was nor ever will be.
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