So She Wasn't a Perfect "10"
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So She Wasn't a Perfect "10"
Ancient coin dulls Cleopatra's beauty
2/14/2007, 6:37 p.m. ET
By ROBERT BARR
The Associated Press
LONDON (AP) — So maybe Mark Antony loved Cleopatra for her mind. That is the conclusion being drawn by academics at Britain's University of Newcastle from a Roman denarius coin which depicts the celebrated queen of Egypt as a sharp-nosed, thin-lipped woman with a protruding chin.
In short, a fair match for the hook-nosed, thick-necked Mark Antony on the other side of the coin, which went on public display Wednesday at the university's Shefton Museum.
"The image on the coin is far from being that of Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton," said Lindsay Allason-Jones, director of archaeological museums at the university, recalling the 1963 film "Cleopatra", which ignited the tempestuous romance between the two stars.
The notion that Cleopatra was not in Taylor's league was hailed as a revelation in British newspapers on Valentine's Day, though the image is hardly a discovery.
Replicas of the denarius can be found on eBay, and images on other ancient coins are no more flattering.
Cleopatra's legend has grown over the centuries.
Plutarch, in the "Life of Antony" written a century after the great romance, said of Cleopatra: "her actual beauty, it is said, was not in itself so remarkable that none could be compared with her."
"But the contact of her presence, if you lived with her, was irresistible; the attraction of her person, joining with the charm of her conversation, and the character that attended all she said or did, was something bewitching. It was a pleasure merely to hear the sound of her voice ..."
Chaucer, writing in the 14th century, described her as "fair as is the rose in May."
Shakespeare outdid them all: "Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale her infinite variety; other women cloy the appetites they feed, but she makes hungry where most she satisfies."
2/14/2007, 6:37 p.m. ET
By ROBERT BARR
The Associated Press
LONDON (AP) — So maybe Mark Antony loved Cleopatra for her mind. That is the conclusion being drawn by academics at Britain's University of Newcastle from a Roman denarius coin which depicts the celebrated queen of Egypt as a sharp-nosed, thin-lipped woman with a protruding chin.
In short, a fair match for the hook-nosed, thick-necked Mark Antony on the other side of the coin, which went on public display Wednesday at the university's Shefton Museum.
"The image on the coin is far from being that of Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton," said Lindsay Allason-Jones, director of archaeological museums at the university, recalling the 1963 film "Cleopatra", which ignited the tempestuous romance between the two stars.
The notion that Cleopatra was not in Taylor's league was hailed as a revelation in British newspapers on Valentine's Day, though the image is hardly a discovery.
Replicas of the denarius can be found on eBay, and images on other ancient coins are no more flattering.
Cleopatra's legend has grown over the centuries.
Plutarch, in the "Life of Antony" written a century after the great romance, said of Cleopatra: "her actual beauty, it is said, was not in itself so remarkable that none could be compared with her."
"But the contact of her presence, if you lived with her, was irresistible; the attraction of her person, joining with the charm of her conversation, and the character that attended all she said or did, was something bewitching. It was a pleasure merely to hear the sound of her voice ..."
Chaucer, writing in the 14th century, described her as "fair as is the rose in May."
Shakespeare outdid them all: "Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale her infinite variety; other women cloy the appetites they feed, but she makes hungry where most she satisfies."
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein
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*****pizza wrote:And Sid Caesar as Marc Antony?Ralph wrote:I always wanted to see Imogene Coca cast as Cleopatra.
Can't you just hear Cleo (Imogene) saying to Marc (Sid), "Don't fight it, it's bigger than both of us?" I still chuckle over memories of that line.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
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So it looks as if Amanda Barrie and Sid James, from the 1964 parody Carry On Cleo, bore more resemblance to the
originals than Taylor and Burton.
originals than Taylor and Burton.
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The coin makes her look more like Golda Meir than Liz Taylor.
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"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."--Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S. Carolina.
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Another line which stays with me is from the comedy team of Wayne & Shuster, appearing on the Ed Sullivan Show.Ralph wrote: *****
Can't you just hear Cleo (Imogene) saying to Marc (Sid), "Don't fight it, it's bigger than both of us?" I still chuckle over memories of that line.
They do a skit on Caesar and when his wife, Pompeia, hears of the tragedy at the Forum she cries, "I told him - Julie, don't go!"
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