What work have you most versions of?
What work have you most versions of?
Long ago, I started cataloguing my collection, for which I am grateful because - as you all know - so many works can't be filed under their composer when they are part of a multi-composer LP or CD. That catalogue is now at some 13,000 works, contained on about 1000 LPs and 2800 CDs, which sounds a lot but I imagine is quite small compared with some here. Anyway, I happened to be going through it for another purpose, and discovered that the work I have most versions of, at 23, is Beethoven's Appassionata sonata. I have no idea why that is the case, it's not one of my favourite Beethoven sonatas - it just seems to be on a lot of CDs. So, if anyone else has a catalogue (and I bet lots of you do) I'd be curious to know what is most represented on it.
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Looking at that, it reads as though I'm boasting about having lots of Appassionatas. It wasn't meant like that; the point was what you accumulate by accident. I reckon we only ever listen to our top half dozen version 97% of the time.
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I couldn't face the daunting task of cataloging a collection that is in every room of my house, my office AND the trunk of my car.
I have many sets of Beethoven and Mahler symphonies as well as single performances of all the symphonies.
I have many sets of Beethoven and Mahler symphonies as well as single performances of all the symphonies.
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
Yes, with a catalogue, you have to start early, or forget it. I suspect Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Schubert or Mahler would be the most common "most" candidates, because we broaden our tastes as we get older/learn more.Ralph wrote:I couldn't face the daunting task of cataloging a collection that is in every room of my house, my office AND the trunk of my car.
I have many sets of Beethoven and Mahler symphonies as well as single performances of all the symphonies.
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I had never really thought about it. But, now that I have I have discovered that since I started record collecting in 1944 that I have bought more versions of the Beethoven Violin Concerto in D major op 61 than any other work. Looking at my catalogue I see that there are including "live" performances over 100. Now, I hear you ask which is my all time favourite - it is the 1936 recording by Georg Kulenkampff. I also hear you ask have I heard then all - yes. Finally do I still play them - most of them - alas, some I have only heard once.
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My collection is still small enough that I can say with certainty that the work of which I have the most recordings is my favourite work, Schumann's Rhenish Symphony. I've the following takes (in order of preference, I suppose):
Christoph von Dohnanyi/Cleveland Orchestra (Decca)
Wolfgang Sawallisch/Staatskapelle Dresden (EMI)
George Szell/Cleveland Orchestra (Sony)
Christoph Eschenbach/Bamberger Symphoniker (Virgin)
Kurt Masur/London Philharmonic (Teldec)
Rafael Kubelik/Berliner Philharmoniker (DG)
Sir Neville Marriner/ASMF (Hänssler)
Ricardo Chailly/Gewandhausorchester Leipzig (Orch. Mahler) (EMI)
Daniel Barenboim/Staatskapelle Berlin (Teldec)
von Karajan/Berliner Philharmoniker (DG)
I suppose that's only ten recordings, but that's still about three percent of my total record collection. I also have a fair number of recordings of Brahms's First, probably eight or nine.
Christoph von Dohnanyi/Cleveland Orchestra (Decca)
Wolfgang Sawallisch/Staatskapelle Dresden (EMI)
George Szell/Cleveland Orchestra (Sony)
Christoph Eschenbach/Bamberger Symphoniker (Virgin)
Kurt Masur/London Philharmonic (Teldec)
Rafael Kubelik/Berliner Philharmoniker (DG)
Sir Neville Marriner/ASMF (Hänssler)
Ricardo Chailly/Gewandhausorchester Leipzig (Orch. Mahler) (EMI)
Daniel Barenboim/Staatskapelle Berlin (Teldec)
von Karajan/Berliner Philharmoniker (DG)
I suppose that's only ten recordings, but that's still about three percent of my total record collection. I also have a fair number of recordings of Brahms's First, probably eight or nine.
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
Handel: Messiah
Faure: Requiem
Mahler: Symphony No. 4
Mahler: Symphony No. 9
Schubert: Trout Quintet
R. Strauss: Four Last Songs
Beethoven: Symphony No. 6
Beethoven: Symphony No. 9
Dvorak: Symphony No. 8
Every Schoenberg Gurrelieder I can get my hands on.
Faure: Requiem
Mahler: Symphony No. 4
Mahler: Symphony No. 9
Schubert: Trout Quintet
R. Strauss: Four Last Songs
Beethoven: Symphony No. 6
Beethoven: Symphony No. 9
Dvorak: Symphony No. 8
Every Schoenberg Gurrelieder I can get my hands on.
Re: What work have you most versions of?
More than 100 versions of the Beethoven violin concerto! That is incredible. I have 15, my favourites: Grumiaux (3 different versions), Schneiderhan, Perlman, Repin. That would be close to my desert island work, if allowed only one.
Schumann: now, what an interesting choice for your favourite work, the third symphony. My favourite Schumann: Perhaps the Fantasie, perhaps Carnaval, though I actually play Kinderszenen a lot. Ten is not too many for your favourite work; it feels about right. You can know them all. I don't really know my 15 Beethovens, let alone coming to grips with 100.
Thank you Harold Tucker for your list too. I have only one Gurrelieder, and one Faure requiem. The rest are well represented, and greatly loved.
Schumann: now, what an interesting choice for your favourite work, the third symphony. My favourite Schumann: Perhaps the Fantasie, perhaps Carnaval, though I actually play Kinderszenen a lot. Ten is not too many for your favourite work; it feels about right. You can know them all. I don't really know my 15 Beethovens, let alone coming to grips with 100.
Thank you Harold Tucker for your list too. I have only one Gurrelieder, and one Faure requiem. The rest are well represented, and greatly loved.
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In my case, I think that it was a matter of becoming attracted to the work early on and attaching a certain nostalgia to the piece; add to that the biographical details from that phase of the composer's life, the constant pulsating rhythm of the work, and its sheer confidence, bombast, and optimism... Yes, these are the reasons I love the piece!barney wrote:Schumann: now, what an interesting choice for your favourite work, the third symphony.
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
The question was also asked on another forum and this is what I came up with:
Thirteen of Beethoven's Symphony No. 9.
Eleven of Beethoven's Symphony No. 5.
Ten of Sibelius' Symphony No. 7.
Nine of Shostakovich's Symphony No. 8.
Eight of Holst's The Planets.
Eight of Brahms' Symphony No. 1.
Eight of Brahms' Violin Concerto.
Eight of Bruckner's Symphony No. 4.
Eight of Bruckner's Symphony No. 8.
Seven of Shostakovich's Symphony No. 5.
Seven of Sibelius' Symphony No. 2.
Seven of Sibelius' Symphony No. 5.
Six of Sibelius' Symphony No. 4.
Six of Sibelius' Symphony No. 6.
Six of Shostakovich's Violin Concerto No. 1.
Six of Mahler's Symphony No. 1.
Many were merely procured as couplings, but one can certainly surmise my affinity for the works per se.
Thirteen of Beethoven's Symphony No. 9.
Eleven of Beethoven's Symphony No. 5.
Ten of Sibelius' Symphony No. 7.
Nine of Shostakovich's Symphony No. 8.
Eight of Holst's The Planets.
Eight of Brahms' Symphony No. 1.
Eight of Brahms' Violin Concerto.
Eight of Bruckner's Symphony No. 4.
Eight of Bruckner's Symphony No. 8.
Seven of Shostakovich's Symphony No. 5.
Seven of Sibelius' Symphony No. 2.
Seven of Sibelius' Symphony No. 5.
Six of Sibelius' Symphony No. 4.
Six of Sibelius' Symphony No. 6.
Six of Shostakovich's Violin Concerto No. 1.
Six of Mahler's Symphony No. 1.
Many were merely procured as couplings, but one can certainly surmise my affinity for the works per se.
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
Bach's Art of Fugue (piano/organ/brass/stringquartet/orchestral etc.)
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I have Digitalized and Cataloged nearly 13,000 CD's, I still have about 3,000 to go...I have been cataloguing and ripping non stop for nearly three years, all are lossless so the sound quality is the same as CD's and I can play any one whenever I feel like hearing it, they take up about Five Terrabytes of Hard Drive Storage Space...what do I have most of...
Bach 1025 Recordings
Beethoven 1023 Recordings
Mahler 279 Recordings
Shostakovich 302 Recordings
Tchaikovsky 410 Recordings
Early Music 447 Recordings
Opera 867 Recordings
Piano Music 2706 Recordings
Sviatoslav Richter 184 Recordings
Bach 1025 Recordings
Beethoven 1023 Recordings
Mahler 279 Recordings
Shostakovich 302 Recordings
Tchaikovsky 410 Recordings
Early Music 447 Recordings
Opera 867 Recordings
Piano Music 2706 Recordings
Sviatoslav Richter 184 Recordings
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Wierd - I was about to start a topic "How many records do you have and are they catalogued, and if so, in what way" or some such question.
And then, lo & behold, look what I find, this subject, which sort of answers my questions. I have only about 200 records; they are not catalogued - why would I need to, with such a small number - and I have more Bach than anything else, I think. Back in 1971 a girl talked me (I was real young) into giving her my original 1955 G. Gould Goldberg Vars, in exchange for a Janis Joplin album. Ah, well. Gould isn't the best at this, anyway, "genius" tho he is reported to be. It was just the idea of making this trade that later upset me, because it was old & original. I also have Peter Serkin's version, but I dunno, it's okay if you are 16 years old, I guess. But who am I to cavill - I can't even play Chopsticks.
And then, lo & behold, look what I find, this subject, which sort of answers my questions. I have only about 200 records; they are not catalogued - why would I need to, with such a small number - and I have more Bach than anything else, I think. Back in 1971 a girl talked me (I was real young) into giving her my original 1955 G. Gould Goldberg Vars, in exchange for a Janis Joplin album. Ah, well. Gould isn't the best at this, anyway, "genius" tho he is reported to be. It was just the idea of making this trade that later upset me, because it was old & original. I also have Peter Serkin's version, but I dunno, it's okay if you are 16 years old, I guess. But who am I to cavill - I can't even play Chopsticks.
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I catalogue them by composer (obviously) and then by the Gramophone system: orchestral, chamber, instrumental, vocal/choral, stage. And I use the catalogue all the time. I'm really glad I have it.Chosen Barley wrote:Wierd - I was about to start a topic "How many records do you have and are they catalogued, and if so, in what way" or some such question.
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That is formidable. The 5 terrabtyes, is that on one hard drive in an ordinary computer? Or is it on a series of portable hard drives? How do you GET 5 terrabtyes of hard drive? And 16,000 CDs!!!Chalkperson wrote:I have Digitalized and Cataloged nearly 13,000 CD's, I still have about 3,000 to go...I have been cataloguing and ripping non stop for nearly three years, all are lossless so the sound quality is the same as CD's and I can play any one whenever I feel like hearing it, they take up about Five Terrabytes of Hard Drive Storage Space...what do I have most of...
I didn't include CDs I have burnt in my catalogue. I have a friend who has at least 1000 CDs he has burnt (mostly of my collection) and no qualms, but I have qualms and also - like a lot of classical people - I want the liner notes and track information.
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Can someone here who has a cataloguing system post a page or two? What did you oldsters here do in the olden days before computers?
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I'd be happy to,but I need technical advice on how to do it.
Would I copy a page (I use MS Works 97) and save it? How do I then import it into the body of the post here?
Would I copy a page (I use MS Works 97) and save it? How do I then import it into the body of the post here?
Re: What work have you most versions of?
There is a reason for that, and I think you will find that this is, if not the most represented recording, certainly the most represented Beethoven sonata in almost anyone's collection. This is because almost every multiple sonata set contains the Appassionata. It may contain the Pathetique, or the Les Adieux or the Moonlight, but it will certainly contain the Appassionata.barney wrote:Looking at that, it reads as though I'm boasting about having lots of Appassionatas. It wasn't meant like that; the point was what you accumulate by accident. I reckon we only ever listen to our top half dozen version 97% of the time.
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Before computers we cataloged manually, with card files or notebooks.
Barley--I keep my catalog in Excel, filed by:
Composer / Work(s) / Performer / Conductor / Ensemble
i.e.
Sibelius / Violin Concerto (+ Khachaturian VC) / Khachatryan / Krivine / Sinfonia Varsovia
I have more recordings of Sibelius's 5th than any other work.
Barley--I keep my catalog in Excel, filed by:
Composer / Work(s) / Performer / Conductor / Ensemble
i.e.
Sibelius / Violin Concerto (+ Khachaturian VC) / Khachatryan / Krivine / Sinfonia Varsovia
I have more recordings of Sibelius's 5th than any other work.
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
5 or more versions of a composition. I could give you 2 or more just as easy but this is probably pretty ridiculous as it is.
10 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor ""Pathetique""" op 13
9 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.14 in C-sharp minor ""Moonlight""" op 27
9 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.23 in F minor ""Appassionata""" op 57
8 Brahms, Johannes Piano Concerto No. 2 in B flat major op 83
7 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Piano Concerto No. 3 in D minor op 30
7 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.12 in A-flat Major op 26
7 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.29 in B flat major ""Hammerklavier""" op 106
6 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor op 18
6 Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Piano Concerto No. 24 in C minor k 491
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Concerto No. 3 in C minor op 37
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.21 in C Major ""Waldstein""" op 53
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.27 in E minor op 90
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.30 in E op 109
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.31 in A flat op 110
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.32 in C minor op 111
6 Chopin, Frederic Prelude (24) op 28
6 Mendelssohn, Felix Songs without Words I op 19
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Symphony No. 6 in F major ""Pastorale""" op 68
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Symphony No. 7 in A major op 92
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Symphony No. 9 in D minor op 125
5 Bach, Johann Sebastian Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 in F major bwv 1047
5 Tchaikovsky, Pyotr Ilyich Cappricio Italien op 45
5 Brahms, Johannes Ein Deutsches Requiem op 45
5 Chopin, Frederic Nocturne in E flat major op 9
5 Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Piano Concerto No. 20 in D minor k 466
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No. 1, 2, 3 op 2
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No. 5, 6, 7 op 10
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No. 9 in E major op 14
5 Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Piano Sonata No.10 in C major k 330
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.10 in G major op 14
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.17 in D minor ""Tempest""" op 31
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.26 in E flat major ""Les Adieux""" op 81
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.28 in A major op 101
5 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Polka de V.R.
5 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Prelude in C sharp minor op 3
5 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini op 43
5 Mendelssohn, Felix Songs without Words II op 30
5 Mendelssohn, Felix Songs without Words VI: Spinnerlied op 67
5 Franck, Cesar Symphonic Variations
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Symphony No. 4 in B-flat Major op 60
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Symphony No. 5 in C minor op 67
5 Tchaikovsky, Pyotr Ilyich "Symphony No. 6 in B minor ""Pathetique""" op 74
5 Puccini, Giacomo Tosca: E lucevan le stelle
5 Puccini, Giacomo Turandot: Nessun Dorma
So much for my theory about the Appassionata.
10 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor ""Pathetique""" op 13
9 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.14 in C-sharp minor ""Moonlight""" op 27
9 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.23 in F minor ""Appassionata""" op 57
8 Brahms, Johannes Piano Concerto No. 2 in B flat major op 83
7 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Piano Concerto No. 3 in D minor op 30
7 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.12 in A-flat Major op 26
7 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.29 in B flat major ""Hammerklavier""" op 106
6 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Piano Concerto No. 2 in C Minor op 18
6 Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Piano Concerto No. 24 in C minor k 491
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Concerto No. 3 in C minor op 37
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.21 in C Major ""Waldstein""" op 53
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.27 in E minor op 90
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.30 in E op 109
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.31 in A flat op 110
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.32 in C minor op 111
6 Chopin, Frederic Prelude (24) op 28
6 Mendelssohn, Felix Songs without Words I op 19
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Symphony No. 6 in F major ""Pastorale""" op 68
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Symphony No. 7 in A major op 92
6 Beethoven, Ludwig van Symphony No. 9 in D minor op 125
5 Bach, Johann Sebastian Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 in F major bwv 1047
5 Tchaikovsky, Pyotr Ilyich Cappricio Italien op 45
5 Brahms, Johannes Ein Deutsches Requiem op 45
5 Chopin, Frederic Nocturne in E flat major op 9
5 Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Piano Concerto No. 20 in D minor k 466
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No. 1, 2, 3 op 2
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No. 5, 6, 7 op 10
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No. 9 in E major op 14
5 Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus Piano Sonata No.10 in C major k 330
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.10 in G major op 14
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.17 in D minor ""Tempest""" op 31
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van "Piano Sonata No.26 in E flat major ""Les Adieux""" op 81
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Piano Sonata No.28 in A major op 101
5 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Polka de V.R.
5 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Prelude in C sharp minor op 3
5 Rachmaninoff, Sergei Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini op 43
5 Mendelssohn, Felix Songs without Words II op 30
5 Mendelssohn, Felix Songs without Words VI: Spinnerlied op 67
5 Franck, Cesar Symphonic Variations
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Symphony No. 4 in B-flat Major op 60
5 Beethoven, Ludwig van Symphony No. 5 in C minor op 67
5 Tchaikovsky, Pyotr Ilyich "Symphony No. 6 in B minor ""Pathetique""" op 74
5 Puccini, Giacomo Tosca: E lucevan le stelle
5 Puccini, Giacomo Turandot: Nessun Dorma
So much for my theory about the Appassionata.
Re: What work have you most versions of?
On the contrary, I think that theory is pretty well right. And often the Appassionata is the fill-up piece for a concerto. It must be a convenient length.slofstra wrote:So much for my theory about the Appassionata.
And didn't you have fun going through your catalogue making that list. I bet you thought to yourself a few times, "must listen to that again".
Re: What work have you most versions of?
These are the fields in my catalogue:
1, compser. 2, work. 3, opus number. 4, soloist(s), if any. 5, orchestra, if any. 6. conductor, ditto. 7, any other forces, such as a choir. 8. what the work is filed under, if it is not under that work (in the example it is part of Great Pianists). 9, the CD number in my catalogue with the number of CDs in the set in brackets if there is more than one. 10, the year it was recorded, and the year this version was published. 11, what else is on the CD if there is more than one work (here summarised as Great Pianists, vol 26). 12, the company. 13, the CD's number. 14, where I bought it. 15, the date I bought it. 16, the category (orchestral, chamber, instrumental, vocal/choral, stage). Some fields in the following example are empty (eg, no orchestra, no conductor).
Beethoven/Piano Sonata 23 in F minor, Appassionata/Op 57/ Edwin Fischer pno/ Great Pianists/ CD568 (2)/ 1938, 1999/ Gt Pnsts 26/ Philips/ 456 769-2/ JB City/ 18/6/00/ C. Instrm'tl
1, compser. 2, work. 3, opus number. 4, soloist(s), if any. 5, orchestra, if any. 6. conductor, ditto. 7, any other forces, such as a choir. 8. what the work is filed under, if it is not under that work (in the example it is part of Great Pianists). 9, the CD number in my catalogue with the number of CDs in the set in brackets if there is more than one. 10, the year it was recorded, and the year this version was published. 11, what else is on the CD if there is more than one work (here summarised as Great Pianists, vol 26). 12, the company. 13, the CD's number. 14, where I bought it. 15, the date I bought it. 16, the category (orchestral, chamber, instrumental, vocal/choral, stage). Some fields in the following example are empty (eg, no orchestra, no conductor).
Beethoven/Piano Sonata 23 in F minor, Appassionata/Op 57/ Edwin Fischer pno/ Great Pianists/ CD568 (2)/ 1938, 1999/ Gt Pnsts 26/ Philips/ 456 769-2/ JB City/ 18/6/00/ C. Instrm'tl
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4 - Tchaikovsky "Romeo & Juliet"
4 - Offenbach - "Orpheus in the Underworld Overture"
4 - Haydn - Trumpet Concerto"
5 - Vivaldi - "Double Trumpet Concerto"
I haven't counted my LPs and Cds in many a year. My guess is 900 LPs and 900 Cds.
Cataloguing for me is a detailed notebook. I don't use the catalogue for "finding" specific LPs or Cds but rather to view & study all the pieces from an historical perspective.
Each section of the catalgue is based on nationality and then organized chronologically. Each piece by each composer is also listed chronologically if that information exists. The order of nationalities is based on the number of items contained in each. Therefore because I have more German/Austrian pieces than any other nationality they're listed first, then Americans second, French third, etc with Turkish being the very last.
And yes, I've been doing this cataloguing my entire collecting life. Thank God for computer word processing as I am a terrible typist and my handwriting is illegible.
4 - Offenbach - "Orpheus in the Underworld Overture"
4 - Haydn - Trumpet Concerto"
5 - Vivaldi - "Double Trumpet Concerto"
I haven't counted my LPs and Cds in many a year. My guess is 900 LPs and 900 Cds.
Cataloguing for me is a detailed notebook. I don't use the catalogue for "finding" specific LPs or Cds but rather to view & study all the pieces from an historical perspective.
Each section of the catalgue is based on nationality and then organized chronologically. Each piece by each composer is also listed chronologically if that information exists. The order of nationalities is based on the number of items contained in each. Therefore because I have more German/Austrian pieces than any other nationality they're listed first, then Americans second, French third, etc with Turkish being the very last.
And yes, I've been doing this cataloguing my entire collecting life. Thank God for computer word processing as I am a terrible typist and my handwriting is illegible.
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18 Bruckner 8ths
13 Mahler Symphony No. 7
13 Bruckner Symphony No. 9
12 Mahler Symphony No. 9
The crazy thing is, I've sold/traded in versions of all four works.
13 Mahler Symphony No. 7
13 Bruckner Symphony No. 9
12 Mahler Symphony No. 9
The crazy thing is, I've sold/traded in versions of all four works.
Re: What work have you most versions of?
It took 1 minute. I keep my catalogue in MS Access and it took that long to write the query. I pasted in the results.barney wrote:On the contrary, I think that theory is pretty well right. And often the Appassionata is the fill-up piece for a concerto. It must be a convenient length.slofstra wrote:So much for my theory about the Appassionata.
And didn't you have fun going through your catalogue making that list. I bet you thought to yourself a few times, "must listen to that again".
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Not sure just how computers work; if you want to find, e.g., March Militaire perf. by an orchestra on a disc where you have a whole bunch of other little misc. pieces by various composers, and you remember that you have several different versions, is there a way for you to do a search and have all orchestral versions only (not piano) pulled up for you? I know you are not on internet when you are making a list but can you install a search function anyway?
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I've never thought about that. There's no piece I have that would take more than a screen-full, so I've never tried to eliminate fields. I'm sure you can do it, depending on your program. As I say, I use MS Works 97 - once brand sparkling new and state of the art, now ante-diluvian. Its search functions are probably more limited.
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
Probably Monteverdi Vespers. But I don't really know and I'm not about to try to find out.
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
keninottawa wrote:My collection is still small enough that I can say with certainty that the work of which I have the most recordings is my favourite work, Schumann's Rhenish Symphony. I've the following takes (in order of preference, I suppose):
Christoph von Dohnanyi/Cleveland Orchestra (Decca)
Wolfgang Sawallisch/Staatskapelle Dresden (EMI)
George Szell/Cleveland Orchestra (Sony)
Christoph Eschenbach/Bamberger Symphoniker (Virgin)
Kurt Masur/London Philharmonic (Teldec)
Rafael Kubelik/Berliner Philharmoniker (DG)
Sir Neville Marriner/ASMF (Hänssler)
Ricardo Chailly/Gewandhausorchester Leipzig (Orch. Mahler) (EMI)
Daniel Barenboim/Staatskapelle Berlin (Teldec)
von Karajan/Berliner Philharmoniker (DG)
I suppose that's only ten recordings, but that's still about three percent of my total record collection. I also have a fair number of recordings of Brahms's First, probably eight or nine.
You must check out the Leibowitz/RPO version.
Re: What work have you most versions of?
How many recordings of the Vespers can there be?Corlyss_D wrote:Probably Monteverdi Vespers. But I don't really know and I'm not about to try to find out.
Re: What work have you most versions of?
Holden,
I'll do just that; I can always afford another recording or ten of the work, I've just got to find a place to store all these new discs!
I'll do just that; I can always afford another recording or ten of the work, I've just got to find a place to store all these new discs!
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
The easiest way for the ordinary person to keep a catalogue is with Microsoft Excel. The most powerful way is with a database program. However, database programs require a fairly steep learning curve to make good use of. There are also 'canned' programs of one kind or another. The problem with these is that most collectors have their own way of cataloguing.Chosen Barley wrote:Not sure just how computers work; if you want to find, e.g., March Militaire perf. by an orchestra on a disc where you have a whole bunch of other little misc. pieces by various composers, and you remember that you have several different versions, is there a way for you to do a search and have all orchestral versions only (not piano) pulled up for you? I know you are not on internet when you are making a list but can you install a search function anyway?
What I really like about MS Excel for the average collector is its ability to build filters. The auto filter capability takes literally a minute to learn and builds a drop-down list of all the composers, composition titles and so on in your catalogue. With a little more study you can build more sophisticated filters and even database like queries. So it's a nice tool which you can get going with quickly and learn as you go along.
But if you're really serious, use a database program, like Microsoft Access. Since I use it professionally it makes sense for me to use this tool.
Re: What work have you most versions of?
barney wrote:I've never thought about that. There's no piece I have that would take more than a screen-full, so I've never tried to eliminate fields. I'm sure you can do it, depending on your program. As I say, I use MS Works 97 - once brand sparkling new and state of the art, now ante-diluvian. Its search functions are probably more limited.
If using the spreadsheet feature in MS Works, upgrading to MS Excel would be worth your while. Although I have no idea of the price, an older edition of MS Office would probably do nicely.
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Thank you. I did ask have Excel installed when I bought the new computer, but it didn't read the Works file, so I didn't buy Excel in my Office package. Do you think it should have opened the Works file? It's a wdb file, I think.slofstra wrote:barney wrote:I've never thought about that. There's no piece I have that would take more than a screen-full, so I've never tried to eliminate fields. I'm sure you can do it, depending on your program. As I say, I use MS Works 97 - once brand sparkling new and state of the art, now ante-diluvian. Its search functions are probably more limited.
If using the spreadsheet feature in MS Works, upgrading to MS Excel would be worth your while. Although I have no idea of the price, an older edition of MS Office would probably do nicely.
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I do everything in i-Tunes...i'll try and figure out away to print a selection tonight...
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The newer versions of MS Works allow you to save your Works files as Excel files. That easy. See if MS Works 97 has anything like that.barney wrote:Thank you. I did ask have Excel installed when I bought the new computer, but it didn't read the Works file, so I didn't buy Excel in my Office package. Do you think it should have opened the Works file? It's a wdb file, I think.slofstra wrote:barney wrote:I've never thought about that. There's no piece I have that would take more than a screen-full, so I've never tried to eliminate fields. I'm sure you can do it, depending on your program. As I say, I use MS Works 97 - once brand sparkling new and state of the art, now ante-diluvian. Its search functions are probably more limited.
If using the spreadsheet feature in MS Works, upgrading to MS Excel would be worth your while. Although I have no idea of the price, an older edition of MS Office would probably do nicely.
If not, you would have to move everything to a newer version of MS Works and then save as an Excel file.
You could also play around with copying and pasting from an open MS Works sheet to an empty Excel sheet. It might or might not work satisfactorily.
Finally, MS Works 97 will almost certainly allow you to save the sheet as a CSV or TXT or comma-delimited file (all 3 are essentially the same thing). You could then import that file into MS Excel. This last option will lose any special formats or formulas you have set up, but it's usually not a lot of work to then put those back into Excel. (Say you had reduced the font point size on a text field, for example).
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
What work have you most versions of?
Pachelbel's Canon.
(j/k)
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Pachelbel's Canon.
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
barney wrote:How many recordings of the Vespers can there be?Corlyss_D wrote:Probably Monteverdi Vespers. But I don't really know and I'm not about to try to find out.
Currently there are 32 listings on Archiv (perhaps a couple are different issues of the same performance) of the Vespro della Beata Vergine. And if you take into consideration that Corlyss (like many of us) is rather long of tooth you can surmise that she has several long forgotten issues in her treasure trove.
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What a great piece of which to have a surfeit of recordings!Corlyss_D wrote:Probably Monteverdi Vespers. But I don't really know and I'm not about to try to find out.
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Party pooper.Corlyss_D wrote:Probably Monteverdi Vespers. But I don't really know and I'm not about to try to find out.
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Mahler's:
First Symphony........14 versions
Second Symphony.... 11 versions
Third Symphony...... .12 versions
Fifth Symphony ........12 versions
and so on....
First Symphony........14 versions
Second Symphony.... 11 versions
Third Symphony...... .12 versions
Fifth Symphony ........12 versions
and so on....
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^ Ah... I'm jealous of your Mahler library!
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First time poster, long time reader.
I have currently 41 recordings on CD of Henry Purcell's Dido & Aeneas. A 42nd on cassette from an old 78 never released on CD. I don't think there excist a recording on CD I don't have (but please prove me wrong, as I would love to get another one).
You can see a list of my recordings on my website: http://www.steenslid.com/music/purcell/Dido/index.htm
Beethoven symphony cycles: 13.
I use a homemade database in MS Access to keep track on my recordings. I also use my Windows Media Player library to keep track of music, as I have ripped all my CDs (mp3/ 320kbs). WMP says I have 4 039 hours of classical music.
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I have currently 41 recordings on CD of Henry Purcell's Dido & Aeneas. A 42nd on cassette from an old 78 never released on CD. I don't think there excist a recording on CD I don't have (but please prove me wrong, as I would love to get another one).
You can see a list of my recordings on my website: http://www.steenslid.com/music/purcell/Dido/index.htm
Beethoven symphony cycles: 13.
I use a homemade database in MS Access to keep track on my recordings. I also use my Windows Media Player library to keep track of music, as I have ripped all my CDs (mp3/ 320kbs). WMP says I have 4 039 hours of classical music.
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Welcome, Tore!
Cheers,
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Cheers,
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Welcome to the boards, Tore. Kick your shoes off and set a spell.Tore wrote:First time poster, long time reader.
I have currently 41 recordings on CD of Henry Purcell's Dido & Aeneas. A 42nd on cassette from an old 78 never released on CD. I don't think there excist a recording on CD I don't have (but please prove me wrong, as I would love to get another one).
So tell me, do you like Purcell's Dido & Aeneas?
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Re: What work have you most versions of?
Welcome aboard, Tore ... you have certainly found your niche :-)Tore wrote:First time poster, long time reader ... I have currently 41 recordings on CD of Henry Purcell's Dido & Aeneas.
I have more versions of the Bach Cello Suites than just about anything else:
Casals
du Pre (#1, 2 only)
Fournier
Ma, 1980’s
Ma, 1990’s
Meyer (bass)
Rostropovich, 1950’s (#2, 5 only)
Rostropovich, 1990’s
Starker, 1960’s
Zaretsky (viola)
My iPod catalogues everything for me, though I've noticed that iTunes is not ideally suited to classical music.
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Just a littleCorlyss_D wrote:Welcome to the boards, Tore. Kick your shoes off and set a spell.Tore wrote:First time poster, long time reader.
I have currently 41 recordings on CD of Henry Purcell's Dido & Aeneas. A 42nd on cassette from an old 78 never released on CD. I don't think there excist a recording on CD I don't have (but please prove me wrong, as I would love to get another one).
So tell me, do you like Purcell's Dido & Aeneas?
It's something with When I am laid in Earth that just melt me.
My favourite recording not made would be with the King's consort and Robert King, Lynne Dawson as Dido. I saw them live in Oslo in 1995. Robert King and Hyperion never recorded Dido & Aeneas. I love their recordings of anthems & services and Odes and welcome songs. Now I suppose they never will record it, since King is in prison.
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Just rip the files in i-Tunes, much less work even if you don't listen to the digital files, I know it wont do LP's but i'll post a few suggestions for i-Tunes tonight...slofstra wrote:The easiest way for the ordinary person to keep a catalogue is with Microsoft Excel. The most powerful way is with a database program. However, database programs require a fairly steep learning curve to make good use of. There are also 'canned' programs of one kind or another. The problem with these is that most collectors have their own way of cataloguing.
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Ack! The horror! The horror! Unless it's undergone significant improvement in the past year, iTunes offers bloody awful ripping software with lousy error correction and a terrible choice of codecs. Use ANYTHING else, like CDex, that has good error correction and will let you rip into FLAC or LAME or the lossy codec of your choice.Chalkperson wrote: Just rip the files in i-Tunes, much less work even if you don't listen to the digital files, I know it wont do LP's but i'll post a few suggestions for i-Tunes tonight...
By the way, Barney--I just reread your OP. I have no problem cataloging discs with works by different composer by composer--just make a different entry for each composer (and I include the others on the disc in each file--that way I can find the Marine Corps Marching Band's Pachelbel if I happened to shelve the CD under Ligeti or Pergolesi or any other of the composers featured on the compilation disc).
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You just have to know how to use it...of course you are the one who still doesn't believe digital files sound better than cd's, did you see last monhs Absolute Sound by any chance...DavidRoss wrote:Ack! The horror! The horror! Unless it's undergone significant improvement in the past year, iTunes offers bloody awful ripping software with lousy error correction and a terrible choice of codecs. Use ANYTHING else, like CDex, that has good error correction and will let you rip into FLAC or LAME or the lossy codec of your choice.Chalkperson wrote: Just rip the files in i-Tunes, much less work even if you don't listen to the digital files, I know it wont do LP's but i'll post a few suggestions for i-Tunes tonight...
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