Yep, but instead of a cane Hans has a "magic wand" (baton!).....Chalkperson wrote:I always thought that "Kna" looked like Charlie Chaplin in the photo above...
Tschüß,
Jack
Yep, but instead of a cane Hans has a "magic wand" (baton!).....Chalkperson wrote:I always thought that "Kna" looked like Charlie Chaplin in the photo above...
You're unlikely to be disappointed with that one SeanSeán wrote:
Darren you are a star, I've listened to it already and it is wonderful, thanks for your recommendation.bombasticDarren wrote:You're unlikely to be disappointed with that one SeanSeán wrote:
I found the earlier and later Haydn symphonies conducted by Fischer to be quite dood but I was not too keen on the middle period symphonies which Fischer did.Seán wrote: .... I managed to get a 3 CD set of recordings of Haydn's Symphonies performed by the Fischer/Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra, I haven't got any other recordings by this ensemble and initial indications are favourable.
These are the 99-104 Symphonies.Fergus wrote:I found the earlier and later Haydn symphonies conducted by Fischer to be quite dood but I was not too keen on the middle period symphonies which Fischer did.Seán wrote: .... I managed to get a 3 CD set of recordings of Haydn's Symphonies performed by the Fischer/Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra, I haven't got any other recordings by this ensemble and initial indications are favourable.
That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.CharmNewton wrote:One of my morning, before I go to work, projects over the last several months has been listening to both the Adam Fischer and Antal Dorati Haydn symphony cycles. I'm up to about Symphony No. 49 in both cycles and I find Fischer to be clearly preferable. In matters of phrasing, orchestral balance, clarity of detail, orchestral playing and recorded sound his cycle is on another level (his Hornsignal, for example, will get your attention!). In terms of tempi they are similar, but the articulation in Fischer's orchestra is so much better that his readings sound lighter and crisper. Dorati does use a slightly bigger string section, but not much. And Fischer's being recorded over a period of twelve years or so, there are differences in the period style playing of his strings, some symphonies sounding more HIP than others. Dorati's nod to HIP practices is the small orchestra and the occasional use of a harpsichord.
The Dorati cycle is very good and put this cycle on the phonographic map (although I don't believe it was the first) but I'm finding Fischer's to be outstanding.
John
Mine is part of a 100 CD Brilliant Classics box (just what you wanted to hear ) devoted to the symphonic repertoire (including cycles of Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Mahler, Shostkovich and others). But Brilliant has also issued the Fischer by itself (about €49 at Amazon.de).Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.CharmNewton wrote:One of my morning, before I go to work, projects over the last several months has been listening to both the Adam Fischer and Antal Dorati Haydn symphony cycles. I'm up to about Symphony No. 49 in both cycles and I find Fischer to be clearly preferable. In matters of phrasing, orchestral balance, clarity of detail, orchestral playing and recorded sound his cycle is on another level (his Hornsignal, for example, will get your attention!). In terms of tempi they are similar, but the articulation in Fischer's orchestra is so much better that his readings sound lighter and crisper. Dorati does use a slightly bigger string section, but not much. And Fischer's being recorded over a period of twelve years or so, there are differences in the period style playing of his strings, some symphonies sounding more HIP than others. Dorati's nod to HIP practices is the small orchestra and the occasional use of a harpsichord.
The Dorati cycle is very good and put this cycle on the phonographic map (although I don't believe it was the first) but I'm finding Fischer's to be outstanding.
John
Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
Yes, I've considered Fey too.Chalkperson wrote:Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
That is a very good box set but I already have the complete Mozart, Beethoven and Shostakovich cycles from that collection. I'm not interested in the Brahms or Mahler so I am in the market for the Fischer cycle only.CharmNewton wrote: Mine is part of a 100 CD Brilliant Classics box (just what you wanted to hear ) devoted to the symphonic repertoire (including cycles of Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Mahler, Shostkovich and others). But Brilliant has also issued the Fischer by itself (about €49 at Amazon.de).
John
Gosh, you beat me to it, well done.Donaldopato wrote:Thanks to Seán!:
Try his younger brother's live reading of Mahler's remix on Sony...maestrob wrote:
This is a not bad rendition of this great symphony. Still prefer HVK 1963, but Jarvi surely has the measure of the piece.
Well worth the wait. I hope you enjoy it FergusFergus wrote:This one finally arrived today....
I am sure that I will....I know that you didbombasticDarren wrote:Well worth the wait. I hope you enjoy it FergusFergus wrote:This one finally arrived today....
I do not own that one but I have heard it Darren and I was very impressed with what I heardbombasticDarren wrote:
Anne Sofie von Otter & Bengt Forsberg combine beautifully on the Sibelius Song cycle on the Essential Sibelius set on BIS so I would imagine that they work very well together on that recording too.Fergus wrote:I do not own that one but I have heard it Darren and I was very impressed with what I heardbombasticDarren wrote:
They are at full price, and he's on volume 19 now, it might be worth waiting for the Box Set...Seán wrote:Yes, I've considered Fey too.Chalkperson wrote:Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
Symphony No. 1 was re-issued on a Gold Seal CD with the Pastoral, which should be fairly easy to find. Broadcast performances of Symphonies 4 and 8 were issued on two sets issued by the CSO Archives titled The Reiner Era Vols. III and II respectively. These latter two are no longer available and are probably difficult to find.arthound wrote:
I am trying to pick up all of Beethoven 1-9/Reiner - does anyone know the easiest [and cheapest!] way to [legally!] pick up CDs containg Symphonies 1, 4 and 8?
How is that, I heard the playing was a little scratchy...Prometheus wrote:
I have Hampson singing the Wunderhorn songs in their piano version, but not in the arranged for chamber version that is presented here.
Thanks [again] John for your helpful advice. Best, Justin.CharmNewton wrote:Symphony No. 1 was re-issued on a Gold Seal CD with the Pastoral, which should be fairly easy to find. Broadcast performances of Symphonies 4 and 8 were issued on two sets issued by the CSO Archives titled The Reiner Era Vols. III and II respectively. These latter two are no longer available and are probably difficult to find.arthound wrote:
I am trying to pick up all of Beethoven 1-9/Reiner - does anyone know the easiest [and cheapest!] way to [legally!] pick up CDs containg Symphonies 1, 4 and 8?
Symphony No. 2 is also available with the CSO on a DVD.
John
Yes, I will do that, let's hope that he manages to complete the cycle.Chalkperson wrote:They are at full price, and he's on volume 19 now, it might be worth waiting for the Box Set...Seán wrote:Yes, I've considered Fey too.Chalkperson wrote:Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
It is okay. It is not stellar. I like Hampson doing the piano versions better. It is interesting to hear the songs in a chamber performance instead of full orchestra..Chalkperson wrote:How is that, I heard the playing was a little scratchy...Prometheus wrote:
I have Hampson singing the Wunderhorn songs in their piano version, but not in the arranged for chamber version that is presented here.
A great choice...the overtures are particularly wonderfulFergus wrote:This one has been threatening for a long time....
Fergus, you are in for a treat, enjoy it my friend.Fergus wrote:This one has been threatening for a long time....
I was in fear of physical violence from you had I not bought itSeán wrote:Fergus, you are in for a treat, enjoy it my friend.
TrueFergus wrote:I was in fear of physical violence from you had I not bought itSeán wrote:Fergus, you are in for a treat, enjoy it my friend.
There is a budget EMI box of the late (London) Haydn symphonies with Eugene Jochum. It's the best I've heard in Haydn symphonies.Seán wrote:Yes, I've considered Fey too.Chalkperson wrote:Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
A great set. To establish just how great, play von Karajan's cycle first.Seán wrote:Fergus, you are in for a treat, enjoy it my friend.Fergus wrote:This one has been threatening for a long time....
Who said Papa's Symphonies were dead, certainly not me..I think you mean the later Symphonies...slofstra wrote:There is a budget EMI box of the late (London) Haydn symphonies with Eugene Jochum. It's the best I've heard in Haydn symphonies.
Have you listened to the Abbado/COE London Symphonies then? they are truly magnificent.slofstra wrote:There is a budget EMI box of the late (London) Haydn symphonies with Eugene Jochum. It's the best I've heard in Haydn symphonies.Seán wrote:Yes, I've considered Fey too.Chalkperson wrote:Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
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