What NEW discs/music are you adding to your collection?

Jack Kelso · Post by **Jack Kelso** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:27 am

Chalkperson wrote:I always thought that "Kna" looked like Charlie Chaplin in the photo above...

Yep, but instead of a cane Hans has a "magic wand" (baton!).....

Tschüß,
Jack

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:10 pm

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:11 pm

Seán wrote:

You're unlikely to be disappointed with that one Sean

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:21 pm

bombasticDarren wrote:
Seán wrote:
You're unlikely to be disappointed with that one Sean

Darren you are a star, I've listened to it already and it is wonderful, thanks for your recommendation.

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:57 pm

arthound · Post by **arthound** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:50 am

Rubinstein and Reiner - what a combination!

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:42 pm

Earlier today, I picked up this 3 CD set for less than €5. I was attracted to it because it contains: Schubert's 5th & 8th Symphonies performed by Goodman/Hanover Band; a collection of Songs; Impromptus and two String Quartets perfromed by the Brandis Quartet:

and for another fiver I managed to get a 3 CD set of recordings of Haydn's Symphonies performed by the Fischer/Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra, I haven't got any other recordings by this ensemble and initial indications are favourable.

Fergus · Post by **Fergus** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:20 pm

Seán wrote: .... I managed to get a 3 CD set of recordings of Haydn's Symphonies performed by the Fischer/Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra, I haven't got any other recordings by this ensemble and initial indications are favourable.

I found the earlier and later Haydn symphonies conducted by Fischer to be quite dood but I was not too keen on the middle period symphonies which Fischer did.

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:11 pm

Fergus wrote:
Seán wrote: .... I managed to get a 3 CD set of recordings of Haydn's Symphonies performed by the Fischer/Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra, I haven't got any other recordings by this ensemble and initial indications are favourable.
I found the earlier and later Haydn symphonies conducted by Fischer to be quite dood but I was not too keen on the middle period symphonies which Fischer did.

These are the 99-104 Symphonies.

CharmNewton · Post by **CharmNewton** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:21 pm

One of my morning, before I go to work, projects over the last several months has been listening to both the Adam Fischer and Antal Dorati Haydn symphony cycles. I'm up to about Symphony No. 49 in both cycles and I find Fischer to be clearly preferable. In matters of phrasing, orchestral balance, clarity of detail, orchestral playing and recorded sound his cycle is on another level (his Hornsignal, for example, will get your attention!). In terms of tempi they are similar, but the articulation in Fischer's orchestra is so much better that his readings sound lighter and crisper. Dorati does use a slightly bigger string section, but not much. And Fischer's being recorded over a period of twelve years or so, there are differences in the period style playing of his strings, some symphonies sounding more HIP than others. Dorati's nod to HIP practices is the small orchestra and the occasional use of a harpsichord.

The Dorati cycle is very good and put this cycle on the phonographic map (although I don't believe it was the first) but I'm finding Fischer's to be outstanding.

John

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:28 pm

CharmNewton wrote:One of my morning, before I go to work, projects over the last several months has been listening to both the Adam Fischer and Antal Dorati Haydn symphony cycles. I'm up to about Symphony No. 49 in both cycles and I find Fischer to be clearly preferable. In matters of phrasing, orchestral balance, clarity of detail, orchestral playing and recorded sound his cycle is on another level (his Hornsignal, for example, will get your attention!). In terms of tempi they are similar, but the articulation in Fischer's orchestra is so much better that his readings sound lighter and crisper. Dorati does use a slightly bigger string section, but not much. And Fischer's being recorded over a period of twelve years or so, there are differences in the period style playing of his strings, some symphonies sounding more HIP than others. Dorati's nod to HIP practices is the small orchestra and the occasional use of a harpsichord.

The Dorati cycle is very good and put this cycle on the phonographic map (although I don't believe it was the first) but I'm finding Fischer's to be outstanding.

John

That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.

CharmNewton · Post by **CharmNewton** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:57 pm

Seán wrote:
CharmNewton wrote:One of my morning, before I go to work, projects over the last several months has been listening to both the Adam Fischer and Antal Dorati Haydn symphony cycles. I'm up to about Symphony No. 49 in both cycles and I find Fischer to be clearly preferable. In matters of phrasing, orchestral balance, clarity of detail, orchestral playing and recorded sound his cycle is on another level (his Hornsignal, for example, will get your attention!). In terms of tempi they are similar, but the articulation in Fischer's orchestra is so much better that his readings sound lighter and crisper. Dorati does use a slightly bigger string section, but not much. And Fischer's being recorded over a period of twelve years or so, there are differences in the period style playing of his strings, some symphonies sounding more HIP than others. Dorati's nod to HIP practices is the small orchestra and the occasional use of a harpsichord.

The Dorati cycle is very good and put this cycle on the phonographic map (although I don't believe it was the first) but I'm finding Fischer's to be outstanding.

John
That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.

Mine is part of a 100 CD Brilliant Classics box (just what you wanted to hear

) devoted to the symphonic repertoire (including cycles of Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Mahler, Shostkovich and others). But Brilliant has also issued the Fischer by itself (about €49 at Amazon.de).

John

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:19 pm

Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.

Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:06 am

Chalkperson wrote:
Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...

Yes, I've considered Fey too.

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:09 am

CharmNewton wrote: Mine is part of a 100 CD Brilliant Classics box (just what you wanted to hear ) devoted to the symphonic repertoire (including cycles of Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Mahler, Shostkovich and others). But Brilliant has also issued the Fischer by itself (about €49 at Amazon.de).

John

That is a very good box set but I already have the complete Mozart, Beethoven and Shostakovich cycles from that collection. I'm not interested in the Brahms or Mahler so I am in the market for the Fischer cycle only.

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:29 am

Donaldopato · Post by **Donaldopato** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:57 am

Thanks to Seán!:

maestrob · Post by **maestrob** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:38 am

This is a not bad rendition of this great symphony. Still prefer HVK 1963, but Jarvi surely has the measure of the piece.

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:52 pm

Donaldopato wrote:Thanks to Seán!:

Gosh, you beat me to it, well done.

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:29 pm

maestrob wrote:

This is a not bad rendition of this great symphony. Still prefer HVK 1963, but Jarvi surely has the measure of the piece.

Try his younger brother's live reading of Mahler's remix on Sony...

Fergus · Post by **Fergus** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:34 pm

This one finally arrived today....

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:35 pm

Fergus wrote:This one finally arrived today....

Well worth the wait. I hope you enjoy it Fergus

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:37 pm

Fergus · Post by **Fergus** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:55 pm

bombasticDarren wrote:
Fergus wrote:This one finally arrived today....

Well worth the wait. I hope you enjoy it Fergus

I am sure that I will....I know that you did

Fergus · Post by **Fergus** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:56 pm

bombasticDarren wrote:

I do not own that one but I have heard it Darren and I was very impressed with what I heard

Thumper · Post by **Thumper** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:58 pm

The Planets was probably the first piece of classical music that held my attention but I haven't owned a recording of it for many years. Last week, I felt like plugging the gap in my paltry collection. I popped into a charity shop this afternoon and, using an obscure Jedi mind trick, picked out this beauty.

The Force will be with you, always.

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:43 pm

Fergus wrote:
bombasticDarren wrote:
I do not own that one but I have heard it Darren and I was very impressed with what I heard

Anne Sofie von Otter & Bengt Forsberg combine beautifully on the Sibelius Song cycle on the Essential Sibelius set on BIS so I would imagine that they work very well together on that recording too.

Holden Fourth · Post by **Holden Fourth** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:52 pm

I'm exploring Rudolf Serkin at the moment with:

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:59 pm

Seán wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:
Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...
Yes, I've considered Fey too.

They are at full price, and he's on volume 19 now, it might be worth waiting for the Box Set...

arthound · Post by **arthound** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:19 am

I am trying to pick up all of Beethoven 1-9/Reiner - does anyone know the easiest [and cheapest!] way to [legally!] pick up CDs containg Symphonies 1, 4 and 8?

Prometheus · Post by **Prometheus** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:58 am

I have Hampson singing the Wunderhorn songs in their piano version, but not in the arranged for chamber version that is presented here.

CharmNewton · Post by **CharmNewton** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:13 am

arthound wrote:

I am trying to pick up all of Beethoven 1-9/Reiner - does anyone know the easiest [and cheapest!] way to [legally!] pick up CDs containg Symphonies 1, 4 and 8?

Symphony No. 1 was re-issued on a Gold Seal CD with the Pastoral, which should be fairly easy to find. Broadcast performances of Symphonies 4 and 8 were issued on two sets issued by the CSO Archives titled The Reiner Era Vols. III and II respectively. These latter two are no longer available and are probably difficult to find.

Symphony No. 2 is also available with the CSO on a DVD.

John

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:56 am

Prometheus wrote:

I have Hampson singing the Wunderhorn songs in their piano version, but not in the arranged for chamber version that is presented here.

How is that, I heard the playing was a little scratchy...

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:26 am

arthound · Post by **arthound** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:59 am

CharmNewton wrote:
arthound wrote:

I am trying to pick up all of Beethoven 1-9/Reiner - does anyone know the easiest [and cheapest!] way to [legally!] pick up CDs containg Symphonies 1, 4 and 8?
Symphony No. 1 was re-issued on a Gold Seal CD with the Pastoral, which should be fairly easy to find. Broadcast performances of Symphonies 4 and 8 were issued on two sets issued by the CSO Archives titled The Reiner Era Vols. III and II respectively. These latter two are no longer available and are probably difficult to find.

Symphony No. 2 is also available with the CSO on a DVD.

John

Thanks [again] John for your helpful advice. Best, Justin.

maestrob · Post by **maestrob** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:12 pm

The singing in Der holle Rache has some of the oddest vowels I've ever heard.....

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:38 pm

Chalkperson wrote:
Seán wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:
Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...
Yes, I've considered Fey too.
They are at full price, and he's on volume 19 now, it might be worth waiting for the Box Set...

Yes, I will do that, let's hope that he manages to complete the cycle.

Prometheus · Post by **Prometheus** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:19 am

Chalkperson wrote:
Prometheus wrote:

I have Hampson singing the Wunderhorn songs in their piano version, but not in the arranged for chamber version that is presented here.
How is that, I heard the playing was a little scratchy...

It is okay. It is not stellar. I like Hampson doing the piano versions better. It is interesting to hear the songs in a chamber performance instead of full orchestra..

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:18 pm

Fergus · Post by **Fergus** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:22 pm

This one has been threatening for a long time....

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:59 pm

Fergus wrote:This one has been threatening for a long time....

A great choice...the overtures are particularly wonderful

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:15 pm

Fergus wrote:This one has been threatening for a long time....

Fergus, you are in for a treat, enjoy it my friend.

Fergus · Post by **Fergus** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:17 pm

Seán wrote:Fergus, you are in for a treat, enjoy it my friend.

I was in fear of physical violence from you had I not bought it

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:19 pm

Fergus wrote:
Seán wrote:Fergus, you are in for a treat, enjoy it my friend.
I was in fear of physical violence from you had I not bought it

True

slofstra · Post by **slofstra** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:49 pm

Seán wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:
Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...
Yes, I've considered Fey too.

There is a budget EMI box of the late (London) Haydn symphonies with Eugene Jochum. It's the best I've heard in Haydn symphonies.

slofstra · Post by **slofstra** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:54 pm

Seán wrote:
Fergus wrote:This one has been threatening for a long time....

Fergus, you are in for a treat, enjoy it my friend.

A great set. To establish just how great, play von Karajan's cycle first.

Chalkperson · Post by **Chalkperson** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:32 pm

slofstra wrote:There is a budget EMI box of the late (London) Haydn symphonies with Eugene Jochum. It's the best I've heard in Haydn symphonies.

Who said Papa's Symphonies were dead, certainly not me..I think you mean the later Symphonies...

Prometheus · Post by **Prometheus** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:25 am

Had my sights on this one for a while. The majority of the pieces I only have 1 recording of so it will be nice to have alternates.

bombasticDarren · Post by **bombasticDarren** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:35 am

Seán · Post by **Seán** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:29 am

slofstra wrote:
Seán wrote:
Chalkperson wrote:
Seán wrote:That's interesting John, your comments are welcome, I have considered getting a copy of the Fischer cycle and if I could get the complete set at a reasonable price I would certainly do so. I have the Dorati cycle I am fond of it and it seems to be the more popular choice among the members of CMG.
Thomas Fey on Hannsler gets my vote for his continuing cycle...
Yes, I've considered Fey too.
There is a budget EMI box of the late (London) Haydn symphonies with Eugene Jochum. It's the best I've heard in Haydn symphonies.

Have you listened to the Abbado/COE London Symphonies then? they are truly magnificent.

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