Big Boxes - everybody's going crazy!

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Re: Big Boxes - everybody's going crazy!

Post by Mookalafalas » Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:14 am

Lance wrote:Ah .... frustrating! HOW does his playing leave <<an awful lot to be desired>>. Can you give me some examples? Rosen was a pianistic and musical scholar far beyond the average musician. He had the brain, fingers, and technique to go with it.
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Lance wrote:Charles Rosen is one of the great pianists of the 20th century. He's a true scholar, as evidenced by his various publications, all of which I have and read. One truly learns from the pianist. He had the ability to dig deeply into the music, but he was also a virtuoso without any preconceived "flashiness." His Epic LP called "Virtuoso" was my introduction to his playing. I am very happy to see that is included in this new box. I eagerly await its appearance here. As for the 50-CD box, there is so much replication of things people already have, it's probably a stunning box for those that didn't get some of that stuff, but all the pianists are top-rate. It's not a box set for me, however.
Really, I find that idea astounding, scholarly of course, but his playing leaves an awful lot to be desired.
Looks like another one for the wish list :) If he leaves "as much to be desired" as Rubinstein and Freire, I expect to be pretty delighted :)
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Post by Modernistfan » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:56 pm

I ordered the Bernstein box from Arkiv Music--$114.00 plus tax (free shipping). I shall probably get the Erato and Harmonia Mundi Rameau boxes soon--Rameau is probably my favorite baroque composer. There are a few others that I am looking at, including the Neville Marriner box on Decca called "The Argo Years," the Abbado DG box, and some others.

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Post by Mookalafalas » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:17 pm

My $12 Wagner box just came, and I am really surprised. I expected it to be the kind with super cheapy paper sleeves and flimsy everything, but it is a nice set, with stout sleeves and even individual cover art. As I'm not really a big Wagner fan (yet?), this is a great way to cover him in my library.
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Re: Big Boxes - everybody's going crazy!

Post by Chalkperson » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:44 am

Lance wrote:Ah .... frustrating! HOW does his playing leave <<an awful lot to be desired>>. Can you give me some examples? Rosen was a pianistic and musical scholar far beyond the average musician. He had the brain, fingers, and technique to go with it.
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Lance wrote:Charles Rosen is one of the great pianists of the 20th century. He's a true scholar, as evidenced by his various publications, all of which I have and read. One truly learns from the pianist. He had the ability to dig deeply into the music, but he was also a virtuoso without any preconceived "flashiness." His Epic LP called "Virtuoso" was my introduction to his playing. I am very happy to see that is included in this new box. I eagerly await its appearance here. As for the 50-CD box, there is so much replication of things people already have, it's probably a stunning box for those that didn't get some of that stuff, but all the pianists are top-rate. It's not a box set for me, however.
Really, I find that idea astounding, scholarly of course, but his playing leaves an awful lot to be desired.
I don't find his playing that interesting, and I prefer the readings of others, there is nothing wrong in that.

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Post by Lance » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:03 pm

Okay, fair enough.
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Lance wrote:Ah .... frustrating! HOW does his playing leave <<an awful lot to be desired>>. Can you give me some examples? Rosen was a pianistic and musical scholar far beyond the average musician. He had the brain, fingers, and technique to go with it.
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Lance wrote:Charles Rosen is one of the great pianists of the 20th century. He's a true scholar, as evidenced by his various publications, all of which I have and read. One truly learns from the pianist. He had the ability to dig deeply into the music, but he was also a virtuoso without any preconceived "flashiness." His Epic LP called "Virtuoso" was my introduction to his playing. I am very happy to see that is included in this new box. I eagerly await its appearance here. As for the 50-CD box, there is so much replication of things people already have, it's probably a stunning box for those that didn't get some of that stuff, but all the pianists are top-rate. It's not a box set for me, however.
Really, I find that idea astounding, scholarly of course, but his playing leaves an awful lot to be desired.
I don't find his playing that interesting, and I prefer the readings of others, there is nothing wrong in that.

Im not skilled enough in music to describe what I don't like, merely that I don't like it.
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Post by Lance » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:10 pm

This arrived today, 10/27/2014 ... I'm having a heyday! Well put together. Of course it does duplicate some things I already have, but a great package.
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This is a stealth megabox. I keep finding surprises that I didn't know were there when I bought the set. The 1961 Karajan mono live Parsifal in not so great sound nevertheless has great singers, greater maybe than his remake; there is a disc with Bernstein and Farrell; three discs with Melchoir & Flagstad/Traubel; Mehta's Walkure I with the NYP, etc. I read somewhere that the set retailed for 100 bucks when issued for the Wagner bicentennial.
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Post by Lance » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:14 pm

The set arrived today. It is QUITE a package, I haven't gotten into it yet, but I'm really surprised at the price being so low. It MUSt be in error?!? Can't be anybody is making any revenue from this set at that price. It's really well done - but I'm anxious to hear some of the material this ISN'T said to be so well recorded.
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jserraglio wrote:Wagner: Great Recordings
UMG, originally on Sony/RCA/Eurodisc. Not the best RW megabox but has many interesting recordings including the Jurowski/Dresden Ring. Am enjoying this set tremendously. 'Unreally' cheap.

40 discs for $12 + $5 shipping. Original jacket format.
http://www.importcds.com//music/2517965 ... recordings
All 40 for the price of one full-price CD. Full contents listed at http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/alb ... _id=861181

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Also tempting for $72, S&H included, from amazon.UK, not amazon.com which charges $147 for the same item!...the DHM Baroque Opera box.
http://tinyurl.com/q6xlqet
I just bought this set, thanks very much for drawing it to my attention. And, as a bonus, one of the very few Grumiaux recordings I don't have, the Boston recordings.
Like Lance, it's the extras that are irresistible, some of the early Met stuff, the four hands transcription etc.
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Post by Mookalafalas » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:55 pm

Lance wrote:The set arrived today. It is QUITE a package, I haven't gotten into it yet, but I'm really surprised at the price being so low. It MUSt be in error?!?
Definitely not an error, as it is just a few dollars more at Amazon. Sony apparently expected it to sell like hotcakes, and it seems not to have sold at all. Something about a few of their big boxes (This one and the Verdi, especially) just look cheap and kinda crummy.

Actually, the Liszt box (25 discs) from Sony is similarly priced, and it is a treasure chest. So many great artists, and really lovingly arranged and thought out. It's under $17 even at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Franz-Liszt-Magic ... sony+liszt
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Post by Modernistfan » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:46 pm

Well, my Bernstein box has shipped, according to Arkiv. Amazing--$114.99 for 80 CD's; that is about $1.44 per disc. You couldn't buy those CD's sold in Best Buy a few years ago (you know, the ones on labels no one has ever heard of featuring the Southwest Lower Slobbovian Radio Symphony Orchestra of Bltfltsk) for that price.

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Post by Mookalafalas » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:20 pm

Modernistfan wrote:Well, my Bernstein box has shipped, according to Arkiv. Amazing--$114.99 for 80 CD's; that is about $1.44 per disc. You couldn't buy those CD's sold in Best Buy a few years ago (you know, the ones on labels no one has ever heard of featuring the Southwest Lower Slobbovian Radio Symphony Orchestra of Bltfltsk) for that price.
As Lance always says "It's a great time to be a classical music enthusiast!" :D :D :D

I'm playing Scherchen from the Westminster box. Relatively steep at $3 a disc, but it is kind of fun to think that was probably about the original price back in 1960.
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Post by barney » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:07 pm

Karajan in the 80s has just arrived, 78CDs. haven't opened it yet. Not sure how I feel about it, the end of his life was when his sound was most homogenous and sometimes artificial, but I don't doubt there will be some legendary performances in there, and many, many very fine ones. I'm also not sure how many of them I already have - probably a quarter.
Did anyone notice the Warner sets of "remastered" Karajan works, including the first Beethoven set with the Philharmonia? There were 13 sets for 100 CDs. I ended up with about half these.

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Post by Modernistfan » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:27 pm

Ah, but which box has Fluffy conducting "Deutschland, Deutschland über Alles" and the "Horst-Wessel-Lied"?

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Post by josé echenique » Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:45 pm

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This is not a budget box, far from it, but it is a box that both Bach and Handel would have wanted.

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Post by barney » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:37 pm

Modernistfan wrote:Ah, but which box has Fluffy conducting "Deutschland, Deutschland über Alles" and the "Horst-Wessel-Lied"?
Good question. It must the Decca Phase 4 box. Is Bob Sharples called Fluffy? I didn't know that. But there is a bonus CD called Battle Scenes in the 40-CD Phase 4 box, which includes both the pieces you cite. Do I have the reference aright?

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Post by jserraglio » Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:45 pm

Mookalafalas wrote:Actually, the Liszt box (25 discs) from Sony is similarly priced, and it is a treasure chest. So many great artists, and really lovingly arranged and thought out. It's under $17 even at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Franz-Liszt-Magic ... sony+liszt
Thanks a lot. just ordered it from importcds ... $13.19 + 4.99 sh = $18.18 delivered.

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Post by Mookalafalas » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:41 pm

jserraglio wrote:
Mookalafalas wrote:Actually, the Liszt box (25 discs) from Sony is similarly priced, and it is a treasure chest. So many great artists, and really lovingly arranged and thought out. It's under $17 even at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Franz-Liszt-Magic ... sony+liszt
Thanks a lot. just ordered it from importcds ... $13.19 + 4.99 sh = $18.18 delivered.
One warning about ImportCDs: there is a definite danger when dealing with them. As far as I can tell, they keep prices low by having almost no staff. They screw up orders sometimes, and when they do, their approach to customer support seems to be ignore you until you go away :evil:
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Post by jserraglio » Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:14 pm

In my case, all 4 orders made on separate occasions were shipped the day after I placed them. I used a e-checks via PayPal and they didn't even wait for it to clear the bank as so many other vendors do. All items arrived securely wrapped and in good shape including a mega Wagner box. So I've been satisfied with their service.

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Post by bigshot » Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:55 pm

I haven't had any problems with importcds. They list things that are on back order that they never are able to get in, but after a little wait, they always credit back my paypal. Sometimes I have to let them know I am no longer willing to wait. That doesn't bother me.

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Post by Holden Fourth » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:00 pm

bigshot wrote:I haven't had any problems with importcds. They list things that are on back order that they never are able to get in, but after a little wait, they always credit back my paypal. Sometimes I have to let them know I am no longer willing to wait. That doesn't bother me.
Got the 142 CD Rubinstein Box from them for a ridiculous $100 (incl p&h) and it arrived very quickly. I'll deal with them again definitely.

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Post by maestrob » Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:41 pm

I only had one problem with them, a lost shipment, and they credited my account right away when I complained through Amazon. I'll deal with them again.

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Post by Mookalafalas » Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:09 pm

bigshot wrote:I haven't had any problems with importcds. They list things that are on back order that they never are able to get in, but after a little wait, they always credit back my paypal. Sometimes I have to let them know I am no longer willing to wait. That doesn't bother me.

And they respond? Maybe they just like you better than me. When I ordered the Westminster Legacy II box from them, I emailed them for literally 2 months asking them to cancel the order if they couldn't fulfill it (so I could buy it elsewhere without fear of winding up with 2) before getting a response (that all orders are cancelled after 10 days if they can't be fulfilled--although the customer isn't informed and the item remains listed as "processing"). Anyway, it turned out fine, but I was pretty shocked at being ignored for so long.
I also got the Rubinstein box and 2 Perahia boxes (at $62, I bought one for my brother and another for a friend's family) and a number of other things with no problem. However, my last shipment was missing an item (which I had paid for), and once again I get no response to my emails, which is a shame because Amazon Italy has it (Mehetmair's Mozart Violin Concertos) for an incredibly cheap price, but of course I can't order it until I find out what ImportCD is (or is not) going to do. Ken B. over at GMG says he had to use Paypal to force them to refund his money 3 times in similar cases when they would not respond after making an error...
Anyway, sorry to carry on, but wanted to make my case clear (especially since I have recommended them in the past).
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Post by Lance » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:04 pm

The Westminster Chamber Music Boxed set arrived. I'm so pleased that they used the original covers of those old Westminster LPs ... so many memories! A nice package overall. I'll probably never get to hear every single disc unless I can have another 70 years of life! Still, nice to know I have it and as the mood warrants, I'll be getting into as many as I can. It was a good buy.
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Post by barney » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:11 am

I'm listening at the moment to the 40-CD box called the Westminster Legacy Collectors' Edition. Lots of marvellous stuff in there, such as Sena Jurinac. I have the chamber box too, but haven't turned to it yet. Obviously time I did, given the range of encomiums (encomia?) it is attracting.

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Post by bigshot » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:07 pm

Mookalafalas wrote:
bigshot wrote:I haven't had any problems with importcds. They list things that are on back order that they never are able to get in, but after a little wait, they always credit back my paypal. Sometimes I have to let them know I am no longer willing to wait. That doesn't bother me.
And they respond?
Yes. I log into my account, go to my orders, find the order that hasn't arrived, and send them a message through the page. They usually reply the next business day. I don't email them at their main email address on the contact page. I go through the "my account" pages. Perhaps that was the problem for you.

Also, I always pay with PayPal, so I can get PayPal to issue a refund if they don't reply. Haven't had to do that though.

If it's a preorder that never arrives and you pay with credit card, just log into your account and cancel the order. The credit card doesn't get billed until they ship, so it's no problem.

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