Mahler cycle & 90 other concerts streaming for NYP's 175th anniversary

jserraglio · Post by **jserraglio** » Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:47 am

100 important concerts from recent NYP commemorative box sets have been licensed for streaming in a December 2017 release. Printed below are the links to the Mahler cycle on YouTube.

You can also stream the other PSONY concerts in this massive release (Bach, Barber, Debussy, Henze, Honegger, Mendelssohn, Richard Strauss, Stravinsky, etc.) conducted by the likes of Boulez, Cantelli, Mazur, Mehta, Monteux, Munch, Reiner, Stravinsky, Szell, and Walter, all carried on this channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCempl7 ... L-Q/videos

jbuck919 · Post by **jbuck919** » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:03 pm

The only Mahler cycle with the NYP that I ever experienced (I attended only the Fourth) was in 1976 or 1977 under Erich Leinsdorf at Carnegie Hall, IOW someone who was never the Philharmonic's director in a location that was not their own hall. It was sold out, in fact over-sold. I was intimidated to the point of petrifaction to be surrounded by people my own age who had been huge Mahler fans since they were maybe 13 and took Carnegie Hall for granted.

Post by **Lance** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:52 am

Just verifying: is this the 65-CD 175th Anniversary NYP set specifically? [Sony Classical 33636]. Or were there some other things the NYP issued as well?

jserraglio · Post by **jserraglio** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:07 pm

Lance wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:52 am
Just verifying: is this the 65-CD 175th Anniversary NYP set specifically? [Sony Classical 33636]. Or were there some other things the NYP issued as well?

Yes, to the first question.

John F · Post by **John F** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:50 pm

jbuck919 wrote:The only Mahler cycle with the NYP that I ever experienced (I attended only the Fourth) was in 1976 or 1977 under Erich Leinsdorf at Carnegie Hall

The Philharmonic did indeed play a complete Mahler cycle in Carnegie Hall in 1976, but according to the Philharmonic's performance annals, Leinsdorf conducted the 5th symphony; James Levine conducted the 4th and several other symphonies, Boulez the rest. According to the NY Times, the venue was Carnegie Hall because renovation of Avery Fisher Hall wasn't finished.

http://www.nytimes.com/1976/09/24/archi ... mania.html

jbuck919 · Post by **jbuck919** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:36 pm

John F wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:50 pm

jbuck919 wrote:The only Mahler cycle with the NYP that I ever experienced (I attended only the Fourth) was in 1976 or 1977 under Erich Leinsdorf at Carnegie Hall
The Philharmonic did indeed play a complete Mahler cycle in Carnegie Hall in 1976, but according to the Philharmonic's performance annals, Leinsdorf conducted the 5th symphony; James Levine conducted the 4th and several other symphonies, Boulez the rest. According to the NY Times, the venue was Carnegie Hall because renovation of Avery Fisher Hall wasn't finished.

http://www.nytimes.com/1976/09/24/archi ... mania.html

My memory may be faulty, but it's hard to image that I can be wrong about this. The Fourth has a vocalist, and Leinsdorf cuts quite a different figure from the other two conductors. Perhaps he was brought in at the last minute. As for it not being sold out, quite to the contrary, I was approached by several people outside the hall who asked me if I had a ticket to sell. This did not add to my comfort level.

John F · Post by **John F** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:03 pm

In the program with Mahler 5, Leinsdorf included the Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen sung by Frederica Von Stade. In the program with Mahler 4, Levine included four Knaben Wunderhorn songs and the Ruckert songs with Maria Ewing; Judith Blegen sang the last movement of the symphony.

Have a look for yourself at the Philharmonic's performance annals, which include repros of the printed programs. When there's a change after the program was printed, somebody at the Philharmonic writes it into the program.

http://archives.nyphil.org/index.php/ar ... 0/mode/2up

http://archives.nyphil.org/index.php/ar ... 2/mode/2up

jbuck919 · Post by **jbuck919** » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:43 am

John F wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:03 pm
In the program with Mahler 5, Leinsdorf included the Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen sung by Frederica Von Stade. In the program with Mahler 4, Levine included four Knaben Wunderhorn songs and the Ruckert songs with Maria Ewing; Judith Blegen sang the last movement of the symphony.

Have a look for yourself at the Philharmonic's performance annals, which include repros of the printed programs. When there's a change after the program was printed, somebody at the Philharmonic writes it into the program.

http://archives.nyphil.org/index.php/ar ... 0/mode/2up

http://archives.nyphil.org/index.php/ar ... 2/mode/2up

I suppose I have to believe this, but I'm also certain that the only live performance I've ever heard of "Lieder eines fahrenden Geselle" was at Princeton prior to this. I did not like the work then, and still consider it trite, a situation that is not remedied by the re-use of its themes in the First Symphony. (One of my multilingual professors made note of the fact that in French it is called Chansons d'un garçon errant, which he said means songs of a bumbling waiter.) It was sung by a young baritone desperate for music work (accompanied by the not very good university orchestra), who said that the following week he would be driving a cab in Manhattan.

John F · Post by **John F** » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:01 am

I'm less confident in my memory, especially when it's contradicted by direct documentary evidence, but the evidence doesn't necessarily change my memory. I distinctly remember a performance of Shostakovich's Leningrad Symphony by the London Symphony and Rostropovich as part of his mammoth Shostakovich retrospective, but find that I had left England the day before that concert. I did hear the LSO play this symphony, but the conductor was Mariss Jansons. Possibly the loudest music I've ever heard, it hurt my ears physically, so it was certainly memorable, but I misremembered anyway.

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