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Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by lennygoran » Fri May 22, 2020 3:32 pm

“The governors need to do the right thing and allow these very important essential places of faith to open right now, this weekend,” Trump said during brief remarks at the White House that his press shop had touted as a briefing.

Trump took no questions, however, and left immediately after his brief statement.

“If they don't do it I will override the governors. America, we need more prayer, not less," he said.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... es-to-open

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Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by Rach3 » Fri May 22, 2020 4:40 pm

Trump will kill people, as with his anti-malaria drug hoax.Any scam to get re-elected,and at least 40% of Americans suckers enough, while almost all of the GOP are too cowardly and corrupt to call his bluffs.

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Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by Ricordanza » Sat May 23, 2020 6:18 am

Here's an excellent response from my friend, Rabbi Lewis Eron:
I sent this as a letter to the Philadelphia Inquirer in response to our President's desire to "order" the states to open houses of worship:

I am sorry to hear that our President wants to "open" Houses of Worship, and I am even more sorry that people would think that it is a good idea. The truth is that right now, throughout the country Religious Institutions and Houses of Worship are not closed. Lots of religious activities are going on through our nation's churches, synagogues, mosques, and temples. My friends and colleagues are working very hard and keeping very busy connecting to people in new and creative ways. Even though we are unable to safely gather for worship in the same physical place, shared prayer, study, and spiritual outreach are going on all the time. We are clearly open for business and our business is taking care of God's people which, at its essence means keeping them safe.

From a Jewish religious/spiritual/ethical point-of-view, the temporary cessation of gathering for prayer for the duration of this life-threatening medical crisis is a mitzvah - a commandment - a way in which we make God's will and word real in this world. It is a good thing. Gathering together would be a bad thing, a sin. Protecting life is the highest value. While we are saddened that we cannot gather together in the same physical place for home celebrations, religious services, and life-cycle events, we are thankful for the miracles of modern electric communications that continue to build and strengthen our religious and cultural institutions.

Houses of Worship are open, but we are doing our essential business in new ways. It is possible that some people think otherwise, but I believe that the business of our Houses of Worship is to spread God's love and not disease. The circumstances of our lives have changed but our fundamental project continues.

I would hope we, Americans committed to a varies religious and spiritual traditions could tell our President, "Thank you Mr. President, but we are not closed. We are open for business and keeping very busy caring for our people, our neighbors, and our communities. We don't need you to tell us how to do God's work. "

We are now in a beautiful holiday season. Our Muslim friends are finishing up Ramadan, the Month of Fasting and looking for to the concluding festival. Our Christian friends are looking forward to Pentecost. And we, the Jews, are excited about the coming festival of Shavuot. I know that while we won't be together in body we will be together in spirit and that is the goal.

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Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by diegobueno » Sat May 23, 2020 12:04 pm

Most of the churches I know of have online services conducted on social media. One church I know of has a regular service in the church with a skeleton crew (pastor, organist, choir of four). My regular church uses Zoom to get everyone involved, as does a discussion group called the "Jesus seminar" that my wife favors. So I'd say the charge that closing down bricks-and-mortar worship services is a violation of 1st amendment religious freedom is a false one.

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Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by barney » Sat May 23, 2020 6:02 pm

diegobueno wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 12:04 pm
Most of the churches I know of have online services conducted on social media. One church I know of has a regular service in the church with a skeleton crew (pastor, organist, choir of four). My regular church uses Zoom to get everyone involved, as does a discussion group called the "Jesus seminar" that my wife favors. So I'd say the charge that closing down bricks-and-mortar worship services is a violation of 1st amendment religious freedom is a false one.
I also would agree. In fact a recent international heads of churches meeting noted the very large number of new people hooking in to online services during the pandemic who have not been worshippers or attenders before. Who knows if, when the crisis is over, some of them will become regular attenders in person.

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Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by jserraglio » Sun May 24, 2020 1:40 am

Donald Trump wrote:America, we need more prayer, not less.
Mark Shields wrote:The president's commitment as a churchgoer brings to mind Thomas Wolfe's great line about making the world safe for hypocrisy.

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Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by lennygoran » Sun May 24, 2020 6:42 am

jserraglio wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 1:40 am
Donald Trump wrote:America, we need more prayer, not less.
Mark Shields wrote:The president's commitment as a churchgoer brings to mind Thomas Wolfe's great line about making the world safe for hypocrisy.
Trump says we need more prayer-he should only know what I'm praying for! Regards, Len [fleeing]

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Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by david johnson » Sun May 24, 2020 10:12 am

Go to w-mart, go to the bars, go to Kroger, go to the beach...but don't you dare go to worship services. Makes no sense! My community is steaming church services. Also, my home church is open for Sunday AM with pews roped off, face masks, hand sanitizer, individual communion service, etc.

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Re: Trump demands governors allow churches to open

Post by Rach3 » Sun May 24, 2020 4:04 pm

Makes you proud to be a Trumpster American.( You cant fix dumb, but the virus will ! ) :
https://s2.washingtonpost.com/camp-rw/? ... linktot=43

And,SHHHH ! He's putting.

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