Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel"

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Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel"

Post by Modernistfan » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:57 pm

Next month, Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel" (The Tower of Babel), for 3 orchestral groups, 3 choirs, 2 solo voices (soprano and baritone), speaker, quadrophonic playback and live electronics, on texts by Friedrich Schiller, Arthur Schopenhauer, Friedrich Nietzsche, Richard Wagner, Niccolò Machiavelli and Kurt Tucholsky, is coming out on Neos. I've got to get this--it sounds like Bernd Alois Zimmermann's "Requiem für einen jungen Dichter" (Requiem for a Young Poet") on very heavy-duty steroids! (It was finished in 1983, so it was not inspired by Trump's tweets, no matter how appropriate it would seem.)

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Re: Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel"

Post by barney » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:41 pm

Modernistfan wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:57 pm
Next month, Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel" (The Tower of Babel), for 3 orchestral groups, 3 choirs, 2 solo voices (soprano and baritone), speaker, quadrophonic playback and live electronics, on texts by Friedrich Schiller, Arthur Schopenhauer, Friedrich Nietzsche, Richard Wagner, Niccolò Machiavelli and Kurt Tucholsky, is coming out on Neos. I've got to get this--it sounds like Bernd Alois Zimmermann's "Requiem für einen jungen Dichter" (Requiem for a Young Poet") on very heavy-duty steroids! (It was finished in 1983, so it was not inspired by Trump's tweets, no matter how appropriate it would seem.)
I'm interested in the texts as well. No Bible, I note. I wonder what Wagner had to say about Babel?

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Re: Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel"

Post by Modernistfan » Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:00 pm

There is nothing that I love better than full blast, bombastic, wackadoodle, German expressionism. (The prototype for it, of course, is Schoenberg's "Moses und Aron").

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Re: Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel"

Post by barney » Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:52 am

I couldn't find much about this via Google, at least not without a better knowledge of German...

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Re: Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel"

Post by Modernistfan » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:09 pm

Well, I bought this recording and am listening to it. I was right--it does sound like Bernd Alois Zimmermann's "Requiem für einen jungen Dichter" (Requiem for a Young Poet") on very heavy-duty steroids, if you throw in some cocaine and methamphetamine as well! Very interesting, but I probably won't listen to it every day.

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Re: Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel"

Post by barney » Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:21 pm

Modernistfan wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:09 pm
Well, I bought this recording and am listening to it. I was right--it does sound like Bernd Alois Zimmermann's "Requiem für einen jungen Dichter" (Requiem for a Young Poet") on very heavy-duty steroids, if you throw in some cocaine and methamphetamine as well! Very interesting, but I probably won't listen to it every day.
That's as bad a review as I've ever heard you give a contemporary work. :lol: It might deter some of us, I'm afraid.

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Re: Ernst Helmuth Flammer's "Der Turmbau zu Babel"

Post by maestrob » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:56 am

barney wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:21 pm
Modernistfan wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:09 pm
Well, I bought this recording and am listening to it. I was right--it does sound like Bernd Alois Zimmermann's "Requiem für einen jungen Dichter" (Requiem for a Young Poet") on very heavy-duty steroids, if you throw in some cocaine and methamphetamine as well! Very interesting, but I probably won't listen to it every day.
That's as bad a review as I've ever heard you give a contemporary work. :lol: It might deter some of us, I'm afraid.
Ya think? :wink:

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