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by maestrob
Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:31 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "The End of Music CDs?"
Replies: 47
Views: 14926

Re: "The End of Music CDs?"

by maestrob
Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:25 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "The End of Music CDs?"
Replies: 47
Views: 14926

Re: "The End of Music CDs?"

The secret to great sound in any system is in the speakers, folks. Everything else needs to act like a straight wire from the source (CD, DVD, etc.). Keep it simple, says I. I've got a magnificent pair of Bozak Century 301A's dating from 1968, and, with drivers replaced once during their lifetime (1...
by maestrob
Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:11 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors who studied conducting
Replies: 13
Views: 5373

Re: Conductors who studied conducting

Yes. When Toscanini conducted at Bayreuth for the first time, he corrected the mistakes in the orchestral parts that had been there since Wagner's time by knowing harmony and by comparing them to the conductors' scores. Copyists often make the mistake of substituting a # sign for a natural, fr'insta...
by maestrob
Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors who studied conducting
Replies: 13
Views: 5373

Re: Conductors who studied conducting

I often wonder how much studying & training some of them undergo before actually stepping on the podium. That's a very interesting and important question! Actually, it's all about who you are as a person, and whether your talent can lead an orchestra. It's a very personal choice: are you more comfo...
by maestrob
Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:31 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Conductors who studied conducting
Replies: 13
Views: 5373

Re: Conductors who studied conducting

There are countless conductors who started out learning an instrument but then discovered they had more to say about the music. That doesn't make them bad conductors. Gerry Schwartz started out as a trumpet player, yet he's one of our finest. The problem with conducting is that you do your learning ...
by maestrob
Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Pick ONE Das Lied von der Erde
Replies: 22
Views: 4572

Re: Pick ONE Das Lied von der Erde

Heck148 wrote:I can't pick just one -

Walter/NYPO/Miller/Haefliger; 4/60; CBS/Sony

Reiner/CSO/Forrester/Lewis; 11/59; RCA
I'm with you on this.

But let's not forget Bernstein's 1972 Vienna DVD with Christa Ludwig & Rene Kollo. Outstanding.
by maestrob
Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:03 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Live Performances of Great Pianists you've Attended
Replies: 48
Views: 16313

Re: Live Performances of Great Pianists you've Attended

Great pianists heard live: Wow! Nobody has mentioned Uchida! Amazing! My others include Peter Serkin, Horowitz, Guiomar Novaes (my first recital at the tender age of 11: I was in the front row, and was totally blown away!), Volodos, Perahia, De Larrocha, Richter, Lupu, Rudolf Serkin (Beethoven IV), ...
by maestrob
Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Klemperer was a Bruckner conductor: P.O.V.
Replies: 17
Views: 5354

Re: Klemperer was a Bruckner conductor: P.O.V.

Holden Fourth Does this suggest that OK might know a bit more about conducting Mahler than we do? OK knew much more about conducting than we do, and not only Mahler. He was an extraordinary conductor. I am not arguing that he didn't know how to conduct Mahler. In my opinion, the problem is that the...
by maestrob
Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:09 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 5363771

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

Listening to Christianne Stotun sing Mahler's Ruckert Lieder & other songs, along with the Brahms Alto Rhapsody. Stotin records well, but the Brahms is too much for her, as are a few passages in the Ruckert Lieder. She has a tendency to go wild of the pitch when she presses her top notes, but she ca...
by maestrob
Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:21 am
Forum: Corner Pub
Topic: More Senior Citizens Filing for Bankruptcy
Replies: 12
Views: 3672

Re: More Senior Citizens Filing for Bankruptcy

Does employer based medical insurance cover your bills when you retire? Just curious. ***** Some plans do but most don't. I believe I would have some coverage if I ever retired (which I won't) but more recent faculty hires do not have retirement coverage. Retirees get either Medicaid if they're you...
by maestrob
Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:55 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What's on Your 'Wish List'?
Replies: 46
Views: 8052

Re: What's on Your 'Wish List'?

keninottawa: Good morning :!: You can't go wrong with the Bernstein/Hindemith: a very fine reading of a personal favorite symphony. As to the Brahms, may I strongly urge you in the direction of Hamelin's double set of the quartets: simply stunning and it can be had used from Amazon for a reasonable ...
by maestrob
Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:34 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Klemperer was a Bruckner conductor: P.O.V.
Replies: 17
Views: 5354

Klemperer was a Bruckner conductor: P.O.V.

I've heard lots of recordings by Klemperer, and he never IMHO gets it right in Mahler, yet he seems to have a clear understanding of Beethoven and Bruckner. His Das Lied is simply sloppy (although the singing is excellent): Klemperer seems to have no idea how to shape the tempi Mahler wanted (compar...
by maestrob
Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:21 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What Excites You?
Replies: 57
Views: 6149

Re: What Excites You?

Favorite moments in music for me have to do with beauty of sound coupled with emotional tension: Adagio movements all: Mahler IV (Szell/Cleveland) Bruckner VIII (Szell Cleveland) Suk: String Serenade Beethoven Quartet Op. 135 (Bernstein/Vienna) Arr. for string orchestra Barber Violin Concerto (Berns...
by maestrob
Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:59 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: In Praise of the Philadelphia Orchestra
Replies: 6
Views: 3383

Re: In Praise of the Philadelphia Orchestra

If you think about translating these ideas to a national stage, you begin to realize what the NSO has been missing and how this appointment gives Eschenbach the chance to remake his battered reputation. Battered thanks to Dobrin's interminable bashing. At least Dobrin has kept his position, unlike ...
by maestrob
Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BRUCKNER'S NEGLECTED SYMPHONY
Replies: 18
Views: 7387

Re: BRUCKNER'S NEGLECTED SYMPHONY

There is a fabulous recording of Bruckner VI available by Steinberg/Boston that's very fulfilling: for me it's better than the Klemperer: more majestic, if that's possible. I like Solti & Klemperer also. As for Bruckner V, the best reading out there is Thielemann's recent recording: this is the one ...
by maestrob
Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Highlights from Francis Poulenc's Correspondence
Replies: 12
Views: 3900

Re: Highlights from Francis Poulenc's Correspondence

Piston:

Very interesting correspondence, thank-you. The harpsichord concerto is indeed a fine piece.
by maestrob
Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:24 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: BEST BRUCKNER 9?
Replies: 31
Views: 20741

Re: BEST BRUCKNER 9?

Good morning! Hangos, either of Karajan's performances would be preferable. Karajan makes you 'feel' this music most memorably. :D Agree that Karajan is the preferred conductor for this symphony. I also like the Bruno Walter/Columbia VERY much: grew up with that one. Wand's Berlin IX lacks authority...
by maestrob
Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:10 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Mendelssohn's Piano concerto No.2 In D minor
Replies: 4
Views: 2371

Re: Mendelssohn's Piano concerto No.2 In D minor

This recording of Mendelssohn is actually my all-time favorite of anything by this composer: Cristina Ortiz/Moshe Atzmon w/Stuttgart. Lively, full of sparkling energy and sweetness, this pair understands exactly what Mendelssohn is all about: http://www.amazon.com/Mendelssohn-Bartholdy-Works-Orchest...
by maestrob
Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:30 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Georges Cziffra-EMI Gives Us The Whole Enchilada
Replies: 16
Views: 8646

Re: Georges Cziffra-EMI Gives Us The Whole Enchilada

Hi, Lance! :) I guess I wasn't clear. What I meant was that I've already got Les Introuvables, and for those who don't want the whole collection, it makes a nice sampler of "The Best Of." As far as my own collecting goes, I live in a Manhattan apartment, where space is at a premium, so although I've...
by maestrob
Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:14 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Georges Cziffra-EMI Gives Us The Whole Enchilada
Replies: 16
Views: 8646

Re: Georges Cziffra-EMI Gives Us The Whole Enchilada

Cziffra is a unique and very special pianist, and very much his own man in Les Introuvables. Thanks Corlyss_D for posting about this set: it's on my list now at Amazon! :) If, OTOH, one wants to sample the best of this pianist's art, try this on for size: http://www.amazon.com/Les-introuvables-de-Cz...
by maestrob
Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:22 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Online Music Stores
Replies: 20
Views: 4566

Re: Online Music Stores

Ralph: Thanks for posting the details on the Amazon Tax. I thought that was illegal when it started, and now I'm sure of it. :evil: As for online stores, well, although my primary listening is CDs from Amazon, I find that it's convenient to preview a CD by checking out the download site www.emusic.c...
by maestrob
Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:59 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: left handed artists
Replies: 16
Views: 7595

Re: left handed artists

Runnicles led a very fine Peter Grimes at the MET last season. In the classes I took at Juilliard, lefties in the class were taught right-handed, with the understanding that left-handed conducting is confusing to the orchestra. It seemed to me that the MET band had no trouble reading Runnicles, and ...
by maestrob
Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:33 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Eschenbach Goes to D.C.
Replies: 7
Views: 2712

Re: Eschenbach Goes to D.C.

Ralph: For me, Eschenbach's recordings with Philadelphia have been mostly inconsistent and unsatisfying, with the one glorious exception of the Barber/Poulenc/Saint-Saens organ repertoire. I find I agree with Midgette quite a lot, and I admired her strightforward style when she was with the NYT. The...
by maestrob
Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:54 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: "The End of Music CDs?"
Replies: 47
Views: 14926

Re: "The End of Music CDs?"

Ralph/Lance: Frankly, I have no doubt as to the survival of the CD format, for all the reasons you stated: convenience, noise-free, potential sound quality, etc. The CEO of a major independent label recently confided to BBC Magazine that, in spite of having his entire stock online available for down...
by maestrob
Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:18 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 5363771

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

Good morning! :) Listening to happy music today: a disc of Schubert overtures, led by the vastly under-appreciated Paul Angerer. Schubert wrote about 16 overtures to various plays, and this is volume I of two discs devoted to a survey of this music, including the famous Rosamunde. Highly recommended...
by maestrob
Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What work have you most versions of?
Replies: 154
Views: 71142

Re: What work have you most versions of?

Re: Shostakovich IV: The Kondrashin recording issued as part of the recent complete Melodiya CD set of Shostakovich symphonies was actually made in 1966, three years AFTER Ormandy's world premiere recording in 1963. Kondrashin captures incredible excitement in his reading, but Ormandy's Philadelphi...
by maestrob
Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:48 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: M. Tilson Thomas' Mahler: your opinion
Replies: 13
Views: 7777

Re: M. Tilson Thomas' Mahler: your opinion

Cliftwood wrote:I think MTT is a first rate Mahler interpreter, but I've been listening and watching the Abbado DVD series with the Lucerne Festival Orchestra and he ranks numero uno on his Mahler Symphonies.

Abbado gets it right!
Yep!

Have you heard the new III yet?
by maestrob
Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:45 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What work have you most versions of?
Replies: 154
Views: 71142

Re: What work have you most versions of?

Re: Shostakovich IV: The Kondrashin recording issued as part of the recent complete Melodiya CD set of Shostakovich symphonies was actually made in 1966, three years AFTER Ormandy's world premiere recording in 1963. Kondrashin captures incredible excitement in his reading, but Ormandy's Philadelphi...
by maestrob
Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:39 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who's Unhappy About Muti in Chicago?
Replies: 33
Views: 11014

Re: Who's Unhappy About Muti in Chicago?

THEHORN: Actually, I agree with you that Solti was a giant. So there! :D I have great nostalgia for great performances of the past (you'll get to know my taste as time goes by), but that doesn't preclude my enjoyment of much contemporary music or performances by today's conductors. Not at all. For ...
by maestrob
Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:12 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Modern American Orchestras, Socialism and Women's Movement
Replies: 28
Views: 6518

Re: Modern American Orchestras, Socialism and Women's Movement

Well, aside from the hoo-ha.... :lol: I have that performance in question, and agree that there's definitely something wrong with the technical side of the recording, which makes the sound shallow and one-dimensional, with very little punch, or dynamic range. That said, the interpretation varies fro...
by maestrob
Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:04 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Who's Unhappy About Muti in Chicago?
Replies: 33
Views: 11014

Re: Who's Unhappy About Muti in Chicago?

My own opinion of Muti is that he many times lacks an understanding of what an effective tempo is, and that, surprisingly, in Germanic repertoire (Bruckner, Beethoven, Schumann), he's dull and slow. His Pagliacci and Don Carlo showed deep misunderstanding of the mechanics of how to conduct these pie...
by maestrob
Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:30 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think about Henze's music?
Replies: 49
Views: 8909

Re: What do you think about Henze's music?

Corlyss_D:

Why not try a dose of Ozawa's Prokofiev symphonies? It clears the ears after all the Henze :) .
by maestrob
Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:09 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Book: "Leonard Bernstein-American Original"
Replies: 4
Views: 2011

Re: Book: "Leonard Bernstein-American Original"

Ralph:

Thanks for the mention. It's now on my list at Amazon :D .
by maestrob
Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:34 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think about Henze's music?
Replies: 49
Views: 8909

Re: What do you think about Henze's music?

The 1st six symphonies recorded by the composer are also available from Amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/Hans-Werner-Henze ... 266&sr=1-5
by maestrob
Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:31 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What do you think about Henze's music?
Replies: 49
Views: 8909

Re: What do you think about Henze's music?

Am a great fan of Henze's Undine, which thankfully is still available on CD, as well as the two violin concerti, available on Naxos.

http://www.classicalmusicguide.com/down ... php?id=911
by maestrob
Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:48 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Do you still use CASSETTES?
Replies: 16
Views: 7640

Re: Do you still use CASSETTES?

Have a collection of about 500 or so and rarely play any of them these days. The sound quality on the ones that work is still excellent (Dolby C), and is easily equivalent to a CD.
by maestrob
Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:05 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Here It Is: My 18,000th Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Replies: 61
Views: 10865

Re: Here It Is: My 18,000th Post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations Ralph, from a newbie. What a record! :lol:
by maestrob
Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:00 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 5363771

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

Good morning, all! There was a recent thread here on Alexis Weissenberg, which inspired me to resurrect his Rachmaninoff Preludes. Simply outstanding. Les introuvables is on my list at Amazon: should be some real winners there. Next up will be Seiji Ozawa leading Berlin in Prokofiev II & VII. Sc0ttm...
by maestrob
Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:07 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: What are YOU listening to today?
Replies: 16255
Views: 5363771

Re: What are YOU listening to today?

Here's some of the best Schubert ever, with heartfelt singing and playing full of depth & feeling. I just can't seem to get enough of this disc......
by maestrob
Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:52 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: The Verdi Requiem
Replies: 7
Views: 2708

Re: The Verdi Requiem

Agree that the Reiner recording is the most effective. I'm also fond of the Toscanini 1938 BBC live recording (issued recently on Testament) with Milanov/Thorburg/Rosvaenge/Moscona.
by maestrob
Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:36 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Maazel Finally Gets It!
Replies: 22
Views: 12140

Re: Maazel Finally Gets It!

Cyril Ignatius: I have only heard some modest portion of Maazel's conducting. I have Maazels recordings of Ravel and Wagner overtures. And I have live VHS recordings of his New Years Concerts with the Vienna Philharmonic (Strauss waltzes) and New York Philharmonic with Angela Gheorghui doing Italia...
by maestrob
Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:01 pm
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Maazel Finally Gets It!
Replies: 22
Views: 12140

Re: Maazel Finally Gets It!

THEHORN: You'll get no argument from me on that score!~g~ I freely admit that my preference is simply that: my preference. I just think that emotion in music, as in poetry, is best expressed within a disciplined framework. What I'm after is a buildup of emotional charge, and that, for me, happens b...
by maestrob
Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:02 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Maazel Finally Gets It!
Replies: 22
Views: 12140

Re: Maazel Finally Gets It!

THEHORN/CHALKPERSON: Yes, well, I've been railing against overdone rubato and fussiness in any conductor since the cows came home :) . My own taste leans towards Toscanini and against Furtwangler, since that's how I chose to be trained at Juilliard. IOW, I like Szell, who kept good discipline, & I ...
by maestrob
Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:17 am
Forum: Classical Music Chatterbox
Topic: Maazel Finally Gets It!
Replies: 22
Views: 12140

Maazel Finally Gets It!

Hello, everyone. As a refugee from the NYT forums, some of you may know that I've been railing against Lorin Maazel's conducting for some years now, maintaining the position that he often has no clue about how to maintain an effective tempo, especially in romantic material. The only recording of hi...