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Post by ravel30 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:46 pm

If you noticed the few messages that I wrote lately, you will see that I am trying to find someone, other than me, that likes the music of the swedish composer Wilhelm Peterson-Berger.

If anyone here likes music or just know some pieces of Peterson-Berger, could you PLEASE LET ME KNOW here or by writting me a personal message. I still have to find someone here other than me who mention this composer and it is driving me nuts. Just a little comment like: I own this cd of his work or I have heard that piece by him.I don't even need to know if you like the piece or not. Just to know that I am not alone on CMG (or in the world) that know of this composer. That would mean a lot to me.

Even a CMG member with good will who could tell me that he/she listened to one of the following excerpt would make my day.

Chalkie ? Lance ? THEHORN ? Corlyss_D ? Piston ? Anybody else ?

Here are some excerpts of his music:

Sommersang from Book 1 of Froso Flowers



Folk humor from Froso Flowers (Book ?)



Sun greeting from Book 2 of Froso Flowers



The wilderness call from From Book 3 of Froso Flowers




The Tingmarschen from his most famous opera Arnljot



His Oriental dance for orchestra



Please do not judge his work only on the excerpts that I gave. They are the only ones that I found on youtube that I found relevant.

Oh and one more thing. Is it possible to have comments from people without being recommanded cds from a composer ? It seems like CMG members cannot help but only talk about recordings :?

I do not ask about recordings this time (in fact I rarely do but always ended up with only recommandations of recording.). In fact, I consider myself an expert on Petersson-Berger (in all modesty). I own almost all the cds containing his work that I could find.

This is my third and FINAL attempt concerning the music of Petersson-Berger. If it doesn't work, you will never see me writting about him again. I have been hurt to many times before :( I hope it is the good one. All I need is one person (or more)!!!

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Post by Brendan » Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:53 pm

Well, since I only have one box set of Peterson-Berger's works I won't mention it.

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Post by stenka razin » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:23 pm

ravel, you are not alone, my friend, yes, I am an admirer of Peterson-Berger and have the CPO Symphony box. I love his Grieg influenced works and they are easy to listen to and provide lots of Scandanavian late romantic music with a touch of Wagner here and there. The Third Symphony 'Lapland' is the lovliest and has lots of folk music influences. Highly recommended fot those who want to explore the outer regions of late romanticism with a sweeter touch. :D :D :D :D




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Post by ravel30 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:08 pm

Brendan and Stenka Razin,

Thank you, Thank you and Thank you. You both made my day by showing me that I am not alone in the world. I feel less lonely today. It took me almost a year and several advertisement before getting an answer. Many thanks to both of you.

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Post by nut-job » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:16 pm

ravel30 wrote:Brendan and Stenka Razin,

Thank you, Thank you and Thank you. You both made my day by showing me that I am not alone in the world.
You were under the impression that cpo sold one copy of the symphony cycle--to you--then deleted it from the catalog and destroyed all existing copies? At the very least you must have known that the conductor's mother owned a copy of the set. (I own it as well).

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by ravel30 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:23 pm

stenka razin wrote:ravel, you are not alone, my friend, yes, I am an admirer of Peterson-Berger and have the CPO Symphony box. I love his Grieg influenced works and they are easy to listen to and provide lots of Scandanavian late romantic music with a touch of Wagner here and there. The Third Symphony 'Lapland' is the lovliest and has lots of folk music influences. Highly recommended fot those who want to explore the outer regions of late romanticism with a sweeter touch. :D :D :D :D




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Stenka Razin,

I am so with you on that. I personnally enjoy all 5 symphonies but I also enjoy his third the most. The "Lapland" folk music theme used in that symphony are all amazing. I don't know for you but for me his music appealed to me immediately. Like you said, it is very easy to listen to. It reminds me a bit of the first time that I discovered Tchaikovski. It was very immediate but it faded with time. For some reasons, I still listen to Petersson-Berger on a regular basis.

In my mind though, nothing from Petersson-Berger is better than his three books of piano miniatures Flowers from Froso. Again, they are influenced by Grieg Lyrical Pieces but I find them overall much more satisfying than the Lyrical Pieces (just a personnal preference).

The Flowers from Froso is the only cd entierely dedicated to Petterson-Berger on the Naxos label and I always hope that they would record more of his work like they did for Hugo Alfven.

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by ravel30 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:35 pm

nut-job wrote:
ravel30 wrote:Brendan and Stenka Razin,

Thank you, Thank you and Thank you. You both made my day by showing me that I am not alone in the world.
You were under the impression that cpo sold one copy of the symphony cycle--to you--then deleted it from the catalog and destroyed all existing copies? At the very least you must have known that the conductor's mother owned a copy of the set. (I own it as well).
:lol: Nut-Job

You are a funny guy. Never said that my friend and if that is the impression you got from reading my thread then you are wrong. In fact, I suspect that there is something you did not like with my request. But when you try for several months to see if someone else know about this composer like I did and nobody response to you you start to feel a bit lonely. This is a very emotional subject for me because I almost quit CMG for good after being ignored the second time :( . So today marks a great day for me.

That being said, it is not because a recording is out that it will necessarly being bought by music lovers, you will have to agree with that Nut-Job.

I do not want to push things on such a glorious day but I will have a tough time to find someone who has a cd of his work other than the only naxos disc or the CPO recordings.

I would be curious to learn how people discovered that composer. I discovered him by pure luck one day when I bought the naxos cd of the Flowers of Froso simply because of the cover and the fact that the composer was swedish (I have a fascination for Sweden ever since childhood)

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Post by Lance » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:04 pm

Yes, I know Peterson-Berger's work - and even have some recordings of his work. Unfortunately, I am off and running to a Masons' meeting. I'll contribute more as soon as I get back. Thank you for your patience.
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Post by Brendan » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:09 pm

I came across Peterson-Berger when I was on a CPO kick last year, having enjoyed the works of Louise Farrenc, Kurt Atterberg, Ferdinand Ries, Ture Rangstrom and others I decided to give Peterson-Berger and Enrst Toch a try. If it wasn't for that CPO set popping up in my Amazon Recommendations I would never have thought of it.

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Post by ravel30 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:02 pm

Dear all,

Ten months ago, I wrote this other thread on Peterson-Berger (and Hugo Alfven)

http://www.classicalmusicguide.com/view ... 10&t=26157

I completely forgot that one good and kind CMG answered me back then concerning Peterson-Berger. It was Febnyc and I thank him again for that. I can't believe that I forgot about that.

I owe an apology to everyone here for assuming that I was ignored months ago. I remember being sad that no more than one person knew about Peterson-Berger.

I am extremely happy about the positive responses that I have received so far. I think he is a wonderful composer to listen to and I feel that his music deserves to be better known.
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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by ravel30 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:04 pm

Lance wrote:Yes, I know Peterson-Berger's work - and even have some recordings of his work. Unfortunately, I am off and running to a Masons' meeting. I'll contribute more as soon as I get back. Thank you for your patience.
Hi Lance,

Thank you for writing your note. I am looking forward to read what you have to say about Peterson-Berger. Hope you had a nice meeting.

All the best,

Matt.

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by NancyElla » Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:52 pm

Hi Ravel30,

I don't think I had ever heard of Peterson-Berger before (I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as some members!). Thanks for giving me a little introduction by posting the YouTube selections. I found the piano pieces charming, and the Oriental Dance for Orchestra was fun, too. Did he write much for chamber ensembles?
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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by thisolehouse » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:05 pm

Matt,

I have to admit that before today that I knew nothing of Peterson-Berger's music and was only aware of the composer's name from seeing the picture of the Naxos CD cover in your posts.

But your plea caught my attention so I went to naxos.com and read his bio,did a web search on him and read the bio at Wikopedia, watched some of the You Tube videos you supplied, and a few that show up at the bottom when the videos are over.I plan to watch more of them as time allows.

So far I find his piano music is nice but I really like his Romance for violin and orchestra in D Minor. I would certainly add it to my collection.

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Post by Ken » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:14 am

Well, Matt, you've definitely piqued my interest in a composer who I've honestly had no experience with whatsoever, except, perhaps, for incidentally hearing him on BBC or CBC and not taking much notice. But I'm fond of Scandinavian Romantics/Late-Romantics and I'm eager to hear if Peterson-Berger's music feeds off of, for instance, Gade's and Berwald's as well as Grieg's.

As I do with most new composers, I think I'll first check out Peterson-Berger's Symphonies. Curious that it's a Russian conductor and a Saarländisch ensemble who recorded the only available full account of these works!
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Post by Lance » Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:55 am

Hi Matt:

I "met" Wilhelm Peterson-Berger (1867-1942) only through recordings. My first encounter with his work - and my ONLY encounter with his work - was through his myriad songs when I purchased an Electrola LP [C063.28023] with tenor Nicolai Gedda singing two of his songs (Jan Eyron, piano). Then in 1976, I found another LP [Turnabout TVS-3452] with soprano Elisabeth Söderstrom singing three songs. By then, I found his work, at least through the songs, entrancing. But not much was to be had by the composer - and, of course, few people in the USA include his songs in their live recitals. The only way one could hear his work was on recordings. Then, in November of 1983, I purchased a two-LP set [Bluebell 121/2] of 39 songs for tenor and piano with Nicolai Gedda and Jan Eyron, pianist. This was quite the collection, to be sure! Lastly, in October 1983, while I was in Russia, I found a live recital of Nicolai Gedda singing two songs with Erik Werba at the piano [Melodiya C10-14631-2]. Peterson-Berger died the year I was born (1942), not that it means much except to say he was born in the middle of the Romantic period and lived well into the twentieth century thus exposing the man to myriad "styles" of music during his own lifetime.

Today, much more of Peterson-Berger's work is available on records more than it ever was. His titles, alone, are most enticing, such as A Walk in the Mountains (for orchestra) and song titles, such as "Girl Under the Linden Tree," and "The Month of May," "When I Walked in the Woods," and "In the Woods Under High Trees" give immediate mental impressions that make one want to hear the composer's works. He must have, inwardly, been a very sentimental man. Some of the world's greatest singers have committed his songs to discs, such as Jussi Bjoerling and others mentioned above.

Now, you have asked us NOT to speak of records, but my dear friend, sometimes that is the ONLY way we can become acquainted with music since so much remains unheard in live performances (unless one visits Sweden, Denmark, or Norway, but specifically Sweden). We talk of records (mostly) on CMG because that's how most of us hear our music unless you live in a large city such as New York, Boston, Paris, Amsterdam, Munich, Berlin, or London, etc. where live music feeds a large population their cultural arts. If were not for recordings, few of us would know the work of Wihelm Peterson-Berger.

I also now have the wonderul Naxos CD entitled "Flowers from Froso Island" (in three books) [8.554343], which I believe has been deleted from USA distribution. What people don't know, they don't buy. Consequently, they are the losers.

I'm sorry you were so frustrated at not hearing too many comments about Peterson-Berger's work, but I fear that it is mostly that music lovers don't (yet) know his work very well. Even I fall into that category, but given the CPO issues, there is much to be heard and quite possibly enjoyed.
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Post by Chalkperson » Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:57 am

All I have are eleven of his Songs, sung by Jussi Bjoerling and Anne Sophie Von Otter, no other music...sorry...
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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:38 am

Never hear o' him.
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Post by Seán » Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:25 am

His symphonic works are on my wish list. :wink:
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Post by erato » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:29 pm

I've visited his home at Frøsø - twice. And though I think his music defintely worth the occasional spin (tuneful and colorful), I don't consider him a particularly great composer. I'd put him at about approximately nr 8-10 among Swedish composers I know.

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Post by Corlyss_D » Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:34 pm

erato wrote: his music defintely worth the occasional spin (tuneful and colorful)
Well, now my interest has been peaked. I'll think about him after I finish with my Gregorian chant festival.
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Post by RebLem » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:15 pm

I had never heard of Peterson-Berger, but, as a result of reading this thread, I have put the symphonies set from cpo on my Wants List.
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Post by ravel30 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:23 pm

NancyElla wrote:Hi Ravel30,

I don't think I had ever heard of Peterson-Berger before (I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as some members!). Thanks for giving me a little introduction by posting the YouTube selections. I found the piano pieces charming, and the Oriental Dance for Orchestra was fun, too. Did he write much for chamber ensembles?
Hi NancyElla,

Thank you for your post. I am glad that you liked the excerpts. I tried very hard to find excerpts of his symphonies but I was successful. Yes, he did indeed wrote chamber work. Apparently, his violins sonatas are quite something. Unfortunately, I have never been able to get a copy of them. I did found a used recording of them on the net once but for some reason I never ordered them.

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Post by ravel30 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:36 pm

thisolehouse wrote:Matt,

I have to admit that before today that I knew nothing of Peterson-Berger's music and was only aware of the composer's name from seeing the picture of the Naxos CD cover in your posts.

But your plea caught my attention so I went to naxos.com and read his bio,did a web search on him and read the bio at Wikopedia, watched some of the You Tube videos you supplied, and a few that show up at the bottom when the videos are over.I plan to watch more of them as time allows.

So far I find his piano music is nice but I really like his Romance for violin and orchestra in D Minor. I would certainly add it to my collection.

Bill
Hi thisolehouse,

I don't think that we have never talked before. I am not very active on CMG lately but plan on getting back to it more soon. Wow! Your reaction was beyond what I ever hope (see my previous messages on this thread). I am glad that somebody did all that research like you did. I agree with you, his Romance for Violin and Orchestra is quite something. If you like that then you definitively have to listen to his violin Concerto (available on CPO as part of the same CD as his symphony no.5 cd). :lol: Silly me, I am violating my own rule about recording :lol:

The booklet of this particular recording mentionned that his violin concerto is considered to be one of the best swedish concerto written for this instrument. I can't really comment on that as I do not know that many of them.

Many thanks for your message thisolehouse.

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Post by ravel30 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:42 pm

Ken wrote:Well, Matt, you've definitely piqued my interest in a composer who I've honestly had no experience with whatsoever, except, perhaps, for incidentally hearing him on BBC or CBC and not taking much notice. But I'm fond of Scandinavian Romantics/Late-Romantics and I'm eager to hear if Peterson-Berger's music feeds off of, for instance, Gade's and Berwald's as well as Grieg's.

As I do with most new composers, I think I'll first check out Peterson-Berger's Symphonies. Curious that it's a Russian conductor and a Saarländisch ensemble who recorded the only available full account of these works!
You may have heard him on the CBC ? Cool! That is good to know. I do not know the music of Berwald very much but I remember reading that Berwald and Grieg are two composers that Peterson-Berger admired. The symphonies are great but unequal in quality. The second and third are definitively superb. I have always enjoyed his first and the last two are worth listening to.

As for the recording. There is also the Norrköping Symphony Orchestra (from Sweden) that plays some of the symphonies.

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Post by ravel30 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:54 pm

erato wrote:I've visited his home at Frøsø - twice. And though I think his music defintely worth the occasional spin (tuneful and colorful), I don't consider him a particularly great composer. I'd put him at about approximately nr 8-10 among Swedish composers I know.
Erato,

You are my new hero :D . I became fascinated by the Island of Froso because of the piano pieces. Never thought that I would someday talk to someone who visited that place. Out of curiousity Erato, what are your favorite pieces of Peterson-Berger ?

As much as I like him, I would have to agree with you that he is probably not the best swedish composer of all time. I would have to agree with you also concerning our description of his music.

Before being a fan of Peterson-Berger, I think that I would have to say that I am a fan of swedish composers. At least the one I know. I would be very happy to learn about which swedish composers that you would place ahead of him. Larsson ? De Frumerie ? Stenhammar ? Hugo Alfven ? Wiren ? Atterberg ? Rangstrom ?

I would love to discuss this topic further with you Erato.

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Post by NancyElla » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:58 pm

ravel30 wrote:
NancyElla wrote:Hi Ravel30,

I don't think I had ever heard of Peterson-Berger before (I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as some members!). Thanks for giving me a little introduction by posting the YouTube selections. I found the piano pieces charming, and the Oriental Dance for Orchestra was fun, too. Did he write much for chamber ensembles?
Hi NancyElla,

Thank you for your post. I am glad that you liked the excerpts. I tried very hard to find excerpts of his symphonies but I was successful. Yes, he did indeed wrote chamber work. Apparently, his violins sonatas are quite something. Unfortunately, I have never been able to get a copy of them. I did found a used recording of them on the net once but for some reason I never ordered them.

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I'll look forward to hearing more Peterson-Berger. It will probably have to be through recordings--I go to a lot of concerts, but I can't remember ever seeing his name on a concert program :? .
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Post by erato » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:56 pm

ravel30 wrote:
erato wrote:I've visited his home at Frøsø - twice. And though I think his music defintely worth the occasional spin (tuneful and colorful), I don't consider him a particularly great composer. I'd put him at about approximately nr 8-10 among Swedish composers I know.
Erato,

You are my new hero :D . I became fascinated by the Island of Froso because of the piano pieces. Never thought that I would someday talk to someone who visited that place. Out of curiousity Erato, what are your favorite pieces of Peterson-Berger ?

As much as I like him, I would have to agree with you that he is probably not the best swedish composer of all time. I would have to agree with you also concerning our description of his music.

Before being a fan of Peterson-Berger, I think that I would have to say that I am a fan of swedish composers. At least the one I know. I would be very happy to learn about which swedish composers that you would place ahead of him. Larsson ? De Frumerie ? Stenhammar ? Hugo Alfven ? Wiren ? Atterberg ? Rangstrom ?

I would love to discuss this topic further with you Erato.
The Sami Ætnam Symphony I like quite a lot, the most striking of the symphonies I think. The Frøsøblomster are undemanding, but lovely.

More wortwhile Swedes? Rosenberg, Stenhammer and Berwald to be sure. Atterberg and Larsson, Pettersson also probably. In more or less the same ballpark Alfven, Rangstrøm, probably Wiren. Not to forget Roman.

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Post by ChrisX » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:53 pm

Just listened to the Sommersang piano piece you posted and I think it is a wonderful piece and it really fits in my present mode of digging into piano music, so I will be adding that Naxos disc to my ever growing Amazon wishlist... oops, already talking about recordings 8)
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Post by fishgrit » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:23 pm

Ravel

I'm new to this forum and just happened to be browsing - saw your post on W P-B and as luck would have it the next day I saw a second hand copy of his Violin Concerto and 2nd Symphony at the local store.
The violin conc is splendid full of tunes and colorful orchestration - the symphony was pleasant but not so striking.
So, thanks for the intro - I am now a convert and will snap up any W P_B that I can find, Fishgrit

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Post by ravel30 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:34 pm

ChrisX wrote:Just listened to the Sommersang piano piece you posted and I think it is a wonderful piece and it really fits in my present mode of digging into piano music, so I will be adding that Naxos disc to my ever growing Amazon wishlist... oops, already talking about recordings 8)
ChrisX,

I am glad that you liked that piece and that you ordered the Naxos CD. They are, in my mind, remarkable pieces of music that I find fun and easy to listen to. And on top of that, I find that music to be fresh and very melodic.

It is okay to talk about recording when it comes to P.-B. :D

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Post by ravel30 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:42 pm

fishgrit wrote:Ravel

I'm new to this forum and just happened to be browsing - saw your post on W P-B and as luck would have it the next day I saw a second hand copy of his Violin Concerto and 2nd Symphony at the local store.
The violin conc is splendid full of tunes and colorful orchestration - the symphony was pleasant but not so striking.
So, thanks for the intro - I am now a convert and will snap up any W P_B that I can find, Fishgrit
fishgrit,

First of all, Welcome to CMG. You don't know how special it feels to read that your first ever post on CMG is in that thread. I am very glad that you enjoyed that thread and that you are now a convert of P.-B. . I do have any recent recordings of Peterson-Berger and I have never heard of a recording that contains the violin concerto and the second symphony at the same time. Could you tell me more about that recording ? What label is it under ?

The violin concerto is a truly remarkable piece of music. I agree with you on that. I personnally like his second a lot but I can understand your comment about it been not so striking. In fact, I think that you can describe Peterson-Berger's symphonies well. They are all very pleasant and great to listen to but none of them is really striking (except maybe his third). I still believe that they are well worth it to own.

Glad to talk with you fishgrit and looking forward to talk with you again in the future.

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by ravel30 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:47 pm

Dear all,

I just wanted to thank everyone for your comments on this thread. I am very glad that this thread may have helped to make Peterson-Berger better known among CMG members. I hope those who will purchase (or did purchase) some of his music because of this thread will enjoy it.

I send one more time a special invitation to everyone interested in talking about P.-B. to not hesitate to write on this thread or to write me a personnal message.

Matt.

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by AntonioA » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:13 pm

Nice to see that WPB is appreciated outside Sweden. He also wrote essays and articles about music. And a sarcastic critic too. I have a nice old compilation with his writings (in Swedish).
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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by ravel30 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:41 pm

AntonioA wrote:Nice to see that WPB is appreciated outside Sweden. He also wrote essays and articles about music. And a sarcastic critic too. I have a nice old compilation with his writings (in Swedish).
Hi AntonioA,

Thank you so much for your post. Not sure if Peterson-Berger is appreciated by many here but I know what classical music lover from Canada who like his music a lot :D .

I was aware of P.-B.'s critics after reading the excellent booklets that come with the CPO recordings of his symphonies. Truly a multi-talented man.

In case other CMG members care, Petersen-Berger was also a music popular music critic in his days. He made several enemies over the years because of that. Some say that it could explain why his music is not better known today...

There are also some nice stories regarding his critics. For example, he criticized the singing of one of the top male swedish singer of his time. The singer was so upset by his critics that he went to confront him all the way down to his country house (at the time) on the Froso island. Their meeting lasted days during which they became good friends. That particular started to sing many of P.-B. songs afterwards. Not too sure to remember the name of that singer but I could tract it down.

AntonioA, do you have suggested recordings of P.-B. that are somehow only available in Sweden ? For example, I am still looking for a recording of his opera Arnljot. This opera is apparently quite good. Have you heard it ? And if so, do you enjoy that work ?

All the best,

Matt.

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by fishgrit » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:26 pm

Ravel,

Apologies for not replying earlier, but I was traveling. The WP-B CD I have is on the Phono Suecia label (new to me) and has Stig Westerberg conducting the Swedish Radio Symphony Orchestra and the soloist on the violin concerto is Nilla Pierrou who is rather good, although I have never heard of her before. Thanks again for the intro to a new composer - it's what I live for! Cheers, Jeremy

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by AntonioA » Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:57 pm

Ravel,

As you can see on the link below, Swedish radio recorded a 1960 perfomance and it was availible on LP.
I´m not sure if i have seen that Lp, but I will grab it when i see it (Caprice records)
There was also a 1973 EMI recording of excerps from that opera. Easy to find in flea markets in Sweden, but i don't have it. The music is very late romantiscism and the story is about vikings and Christianity. I have enjoyed the parts i have heard.

http://www.musicweb-international.com/c ... O10822.htm

Recommendations:

*Frösöblomster in the original piano version was a favorite the pianist Stig Ribbing, but i don´t know if his recording is availible today.

*Anything recorded by conductor Stig Westerberg, a very fine conductor in Swedish music.

This list show some recordings availible in Sweden (the complete music for piano for example)

http://cdon.se/musik/peterson-berger_wilhelm/


All the best,
Antonio
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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by Scion7 » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:50 pm

I have most of the piano pieces, and all the symphonic works issued on CD. One day, HOPEFULLY, someone will get around to recording/releasing his chamber music!

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by barney » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:29 am

Scion7 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:50 pm
I have most of the piano pieces, and all the symphonic works issued on CD. One day, HOPEFULLY, someone will get around to recording/releasing his chamber music!
Welcome to a new member - first post! How wonderful that you entered the arena by reviving a 12-year-old thread. Perhaps you have been visiting for a while?

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by maestrob » Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:33 am

Scion7 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:50 pm
I have most of the piano pieces, and all the symphonic works issued on CD. One day, HOPEFULLY, someone will get around to recording/releasing his chamber music!
Second the motion, Scion7! :D

Please post often and frequently, in that order. Delighted that you resurrected this thread, as I plan to explore the many references to Swedish music contained therein.

How'd I miss this? :oops:

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by diegobueno » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:08 am

I wouldn't have sought out this composer myself, but have been quite pleased with what I found. The Romanticism of his 3rd symphony has a much lighter touch than the kind being produced in the German-speaking countries at that time. I hear a lot of Vaughan Williams in the first movement and the third movement reminds me quite a lot of Delius. I wonder if Delius knew Peterson-Berger.

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by maestrob » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:00 pm

Thanks for that, Mark.

Just finished hearing his Violin Concerto & Fifth Symphony from this CD on Amazon. Remarkably good music. I will be exploring further in the coming days:

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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by Lance » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:54 pm

According to my check on ravel30, last time online with us was April 16th, 2021. I have not seen ravel30 unless I'm missing something. I hope he is well. Have any CMGers seen any posts from ravel30?
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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by Seán » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:51 pm

Hi Lance, no, I have not seen any posts from Matt for several years now.
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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by Seán » Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:58 pm

With regard to Matt's initial question are there any Peterson-Berger fans on CMG?

I have considered getting a copy of the set below, does anyone have any thoughts that they might like to share with me:
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Re: Request from a discouraged member: Wilhelm Peterson-Berger

Post by maestrob » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:36 am

Seán wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:58 pm
With regard to Matt's initial question are there any Peterson-Berger fans on CMG?

I have considered getting a copy of the set below, does anyone have any thoughts that they might like to share with me:
Hi, Sean.

I heard the Second Symphony a while back from the box you posted, along with a Violin Serenade, and have put your box on my wantlist. The music is quite good and, since I know you like Berwald, I think you would enjoy Peterson-Berger's music as well.

Presto has the 5CD set on offer for $39.50, while amazon is selling it here for $44.99 plus tax (FREE shipping).

So much music, so little time! :wink:

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